I really feel like you’re forgetting this

I think the guy’s heart is in the right place though, I think he just hasn’t done the legwork yet on studying how modern socialist states are moving on lgbt issues and why they’re doing so.

is how you defend that above screenshot people are pointed out. I don’t understand how you can’t see the contradiction implicit. A person’s heart can’t be in the right place if they say things like what was said in the original comment. It occurs to me on reread maybe I don’t understand it? It’s a bit ambiguously worded. But it has popped up before in these conversations and its cited whenever l.ml users reach out to the other big gay instances.

We should accept each other not based on “how modern socialist states are moving”. That phrase “doing the leg work” is doing a lot of leg work being nonspecific about what someone is actually learning and internalizing.

Its just uncomfortable to be in a supposedly welcoming space where allyship arises from first principles and not from real empathy. Its not a college class you can study for.

I think this is a community organiser and not a faceless national government. Making lgbt policy and learning in your personal life to be better aren’t the same thing. Not dissimilar to when right wingers call something “political.”

One would think class struggle would be the first thing socialists would appeal to instead of a milquetoast attempts to reassure people “its okay, the Revolutionary Cause are slowly learning to view you as people!”

Man is a person. He answers to a community. He’s not actually a party official of the revolutionary guard and you and I are allowed to demand better. The way I wrote the last post gave you ample opportunity clap back at me with proof from Dessines that he felt differently, which I honestly expect exists somewhere at least as damage control. But instead we are arguing the semantics over whether a man should take responsibilty for his own bigotry or whether the entire global leftist project should bear that burden for him. I’d rather be slurred to my face than have people bullshit me we’re on the same side while talking about us like we’re props; if only the right ideological mutant strain of intersectional communism that you personally advocate for as being inevitable were to triumph, then the callous way we’re discussed will have been justified. You’re sharing the table with a bigot, or at least you’re leaving a chair open with this rhetoric of pragmatic “usefulness to the cause”. I am happy to be proven wrong (for the sake of .ml’s community) but even if I am this line of reasoning you employ just does not work.

I don’t really know the drama around this guy except The Screenshot everybody posts so I’m not going to act as if I care about his personal opinions, but I don’t like what I see as hypocrisy. There can be no allyship with someone who understands our experience purely through the lens of political opportunism. Empathy is the real prerequisite for decency here. There is a lot of talk on this guy and whether he updated his stance after that screenshot but I don’t think it matters unless he signals himself a understanding of lgbt people as human fools trapped in the same exploitation he is. And hell I don’t know, maybe he wrote that post awhile ago, and if he did good for him. But it rather seems like he lets people speak for him on this issue.

Forcing pronoun disclosure is not necessarily helpful to the trans community, especially those questioning. Do you guys have a questioning tag or something? We have a few users bouncing around on Beehaws for instance that don’t concieve of themselves as human. This stuff is complicated.

This is a weird take. Lgbt people shouldn’t need to be a useful pawn for socialism in order to be treated with respect. We deserve rights and respect because we’re as human as the rest of you theoretically. If someone ostensibly left-wing or socialist needs to read theory in order value my life and needs as a proletarian ally then they can necessarily be no ally of mine. More work needs to be done beyond tacit academic acceptance.

What other minority has to be vetted for their use before being welcomed into your so-called revolutionary project?

Oh so its now completely impossible to stop a brigade by shuttering a subreddit for a day or two without begging some pea brain Reddit stooge. That won’t lead to anything putrid happening to small and medium subreddits on a regular basis I hope.

Interesting, thank you for the reply. I am not a hacker nor a gnostic but I have a slight fascination with the latter. But on hacking: while there’s merit to your position that hacker culture is reactionary I have to ask what do you think of hacker collectives like the one that leaked Project 2025 or other noble computer nerd activities? It seems to me like a hacker is exercizing another avenue of power over her world like jumping or singing. Thinking the online world is seperate and intangible from our non-online experience seems to be making the mistake of dualism in upholding one sphere of reality over the other/s.

hacker culture is intrinsically gnostic and reactionary

Do you nind elaborating a bit?

If AI bros were serious about existential risk and problems of alignment instead of attempting to form a cult of technobabble to make themselves superior and scrounge for venture capital… They’d pull the plug.

Altman is selling what he alledges he dreads more than anything: AI that would lie to you without a second (or even first) literal thought.

If you formed this chat clique you have to lead it and not be coy about it. If I were you I would talk privately with Ann and tell her not to spew the negativity. She could possibly have a blog type “quarantine room” for venting. But you should put your best foot forward and present a friendly space. Stick to your guns about that and people who don’t want that will self select out. When Ann is ranting you’ll look chill in comparison and maybe you can talk to her about who you both want to flirt with. You made a colleague chat, you have to, err, chat with your colleagues.

Hang on a second. Orson Scott Card is a homophobic motherfuck. What’d NS do that is so bad?

The left: Man… I’m never gonna fully get over having gone through puberty for the gender that I feel doesn’t represent me. I wanted to take my own life at times and I had no support. I see that people who started transitioning younger have better results passing and are generally safer for it. I wish we could talk about this openly.

The medical community: It should be alright to delay puberty for trans kids on the same ground we delay puberty for cis kids if there’s a developmental problem, I guess. I don’t think we’ll be providing any life altering surgeries until adulthood however except in maybe extreme circumstances. We’ll see if there’s a suicide risk maybe.

The right: THE LEFT R GONNA CHOP OFF MY SONS DICK AND MY DAUGHTERS TITS THE MOMENT NEXT PRIDE MONTH ROLLS AROUND, I HAVE SEEN IT WRIT IN THE SKY, I HAVE SEEN IT SPELT UPON THE WIND, THERE WILL BE HORMONE GAS ATTACKS, THERE WILL BE ROVING GENDER-SWAPPER MACHINES, MY LINE WILL END IN DEGENERACY

The leadership: This is factually correct. Let us begin the Great Work. Alexa play Yhorm the Giant Dark Souls III OST by Yuka Kitamura.

Centrists: I am just not sure where the line is, y’know?

By the same token gait recognition.

Counterpoint: My sibling had their goddamn desktop ransomewared by this thing when they dared to uninstall it. It isn’t privacy nerd sensabilities, Windows now behaves like malware under certain opaque conditions and at unpredictable intervals. This was four years ago on Win 10. How great do you think non savvy people are about clicking things they don’t understand anyway and essentially springing a trap?

Others are great, also shoutout to Equality Now. Another one that is not a charity is the ACLU.

The moral obscenity is that it’s been 70 years since the holocaust and we still won’t admit when a genocide is happening if it’s at all inconvenient for us until we’ve personally toured the camps and seen the human soot. The victims of genocide wait for Kock-funded, glue huffing NYT columnists to agree amongst themselves, and the wider consensus of respected Kock-money takers, to agree that a thing is genocide. Colonial India. Apartheid. Vietnam and Cambodia. Iraq and Afghanistan. We’ll always be waiting on evil fuckwhits at the New York Times and the Atlantic and so on to agree that people are dying because other people really fucking loathe them and consider them bugs. But GOD FORBID we be semantically incorrect as to the degree of wanton murder and the bombing of refugee corridors.

Little Nazi shitbags.

If what’s happening is broad incompetence, it is genocidal in its disregard for human life, and the IDF should be turned inside out at the Hague.

This is quite obviously a bot. I derive no pleasure in the fact it’s propaganda slogans hit at core truths, I merely urge my bruhs: consider the motive behind an account that thinks you’re stupid enough to miss its complete inability to come off as human.

He plagues gaming communities, how terrible. Take away his autonomy!

Listen to yourself. He needs meds and house arrests at most. I do not propose to know how to discourage a compulsive hacking disorder, but why on Earth should a judge sentence him to imprisonment on behalf of Rockstar for a leak?

Between this and Nintendo basically enslaving that one guy by garnishing his wages for the rest of his life, game companies are getting way too comfortable using the law like a cudgel, just because they can. No fucking video game content being leaked justifies a game-shitter-outer to be able to do this. Guess I’ll be boycotting.