@_finger_
We can have both generic instances and instances around a particular topic.

We already have a few lemmy dedicated to a particular community like latte.isnot.coffee and startrek.website

@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.

A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.

You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.

Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.

Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.

The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.

@aka_quant_noir @Bicyclejohn

Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!

Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.

@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about “replace”, but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.

I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:

- Meta (insta/twt replacement)
- Tumblr
- Wordpress.com
- Medium (currently only running mastodon)
- Discourse
- Flarum

Last time I check those were a few popular social media.

Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy

@aianarchist @CannotSleep420
There need to be one first follower for the community to be synced.

You are the first to follow this community from this lemmy server. Now the community is synced and will keep updating.

@PriorProject

I think that’s almost inevitable. Almost all mid-sized lemmy instances will have a copy of almost all mid-sized lemmy communities.

Lemmy is a very different beast compared to mastodon. Of course not everyone is following everyone on mastodon, but if you have an even slightly diverse userbase, they’ll subscribe to a lot of different communities and your instance will have a lot of traffic very quickly. Hosting lemmy is going to be challenging.

@bruhsoulz asklemmy is like a mailing list or a twitter bot that retweets everything it receives. If it can’t receive messages, it can’t retweet/boost/forward them to others.

@bruhsoulz
If you want an example of what happens when two servers block one another.

calckey.social and lemmy.one can talk to each other. So my post is visible here: https://lemmy.one/comment/33034
calckey.social can’t talk with lemmy.ml so the post isn’t on lemmy.ml
Since lemmy.ml is the home server of “asklemmy”, it can’t be forwarded to other servers so no one can see it except lemmy.one and calckey.social

@xboxLIVE @bruhsoulz

That’s a lot of message duplication and it will have some growing pains for the lemmy admins, but at least exploration shouldn’t be too hard.

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@xboxLIVE @bruhsoulz
> I’m not sure if I’m able to see all posts

If only ONE user from pawb.social follows !some_community@lemmy.ml, then the entire community and all new messages will be sent to pawb.social.

So, unless your instance have a very low amount of user or the community you’re looking for has a very low amount of followers, every mid-sized community will soon be synced on all mid-sized lemmy server.

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@hellerphant @maegul

I think the main issue is that calckey.social is used as a pre-prod testing ground to live-test “-dev” releases that are less stable than even “-rc” releases let even stable releases.

The question is can calckey.social be both cutting-edge highly updated arch-linux style and the flagship of calckey? I like the idea of pre-testing new features before everyone else, but a flagship should be stable. It’s hard to do both.

They also have growing pains.

@Marv
BUT, it needs moderation and moderating NSFW is hard, exhausting and time-consuming. Not everyone wants to do that. Also when I say NSFW content, it doesn’t have to be porn bot posting content they don’t own. It could be OC only, a photograph community that allows nude models, etc. Unlike porn dumps communities, those are important places to have.

Edit: Also research the history of switter, it’s very interesting. And one of the big failures of the fediverse. We should learn from it.

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@Marv IMO we need some NSFW instances. It wouldn’t be a problem with the rest of lemmy/kbin because it’s easy to filter out communities/magazine or entire instances.

There is a legitimate demand for NSFW content. And NSFW content can be a decisive factor in the success of a platform. (See Tumblr vs Twitter, photographs on instagram, etc.) Sex workers are also a vulnerable group and one of the goals of the fediverse is to provide a place for marginalized groups.

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@menturi @raccoon There is a bunch of other protocols other than ActivityPub who are also considered part of the fediverse: Diaspora, Zot, Streams, etc.

In fact ActivityPub wasn’t always the main protocol of the fediverse, it used to be OStatus. Mastdon was first build on top of OStatus before switching to ActivityPub.

But nowadays ActivityPub is by far the most used one.

@jax @eshep It has been a problem for a long time, yes.

But there are people working on standardizing everything. It’s a fairly recent project, not very big in scope and not very mature. But it’s getting there.

It’s called FEP (Fediverse Enhancement Proposals) and it’s like RFC for the fediverse.

You can find the standards here:
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/

And the discussion there:
https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/standards/fep/54

@uthredii Hopefully they consider kbin. Mastodon has already enough client support.