It’s happening again!
Wish people cared this much when Epic shutdown the servers for the Unreal Tournament games.
You’re smart enough to know this is nothing like that because you are old enough to have played UT
Doesn’t change that I wish people cared more about when companies shutdown games that they paid for. It cost Epic pennies to keep the master servers running.
So they’re wilfully ignoring the EU’s Digital Markets Act and a US court-ordered injunction that prevents them from punishing developers for trying to circumvent the use of the App Store for in-app purchases, after one of their execs was caught lying under oath and potentially facing criminal repercussions.
I’m not the biggest fan of Epic Games, but I really want to see this backfire spectacularly. Apple’s business practices are so bad that it makes me want to see Tim Sweeney kick Tim Cook’s ass in court.
I personally always root for the underdog when I have no stake. I thank epic for the free games I play on my steam deck, used to have an iPhone but transitioned to a Linux phone fairly early, and not a fan of either company’s current director.
I can’t believe I’m cheering for Sweeney even once, but I guess it works out for all of us in this case.
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We’re a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We’ll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it’s fun.
We’ll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We’re already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren’t shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We’ve been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that’s already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they’ve threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can’t is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You’re not special, you’re not original, you’re not the first; this is just another boss fight.
Is this a copy pasta? If it weren’t for the 1 typo (8n), I’d swear this is a copy pasta. If it’s not already, I’m definitely saving it and making it one. Nice pasta, bro
It’s copy pasta, I’ve seen it before.
It definitely should be a copypasta, if it isn’t already. It has all of the right makings of a copypasta.
It’s a copy pasta, either reddit or 4chan
GAmErS rIsE Up!
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Gonna disagree there, gamers can’t give up pre-ordering games through studios that regularly bait and switch and throwing money at the biggest AAA studios.
We live in a society
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Of course we do. We’re not animals.
If you don’t want to be called racist misogynist rape apologists don’t be racist, misogynist, or apologize for rape. Pretty simple. Gamers are not actually an oppressed identity my guy. Nobody is out to get you.
I don’t know whether you’ve been alive during the “games make people violent” craze, where the establishment was trying to pin school shootings on a harmless hobby: The same establishment which caused the systemic issues driving youth into desperation was now blaming an escapist hobby for the issues they, themselves, caused. It’s like framing jugglers for knife attacks. Do some jugglers juggle knives? Yes. Does that have anything to do with anything? No.
Is that in any way comparable in scale and intensity to what various groups had to go through historically, or are now, no of course not. But gamers, as a wider culture, know what it’s like to be victim-blamed. The average person who picks up playing games as a hobby is not any more racist, misogynist, or drivelling rape apologia than the population average. They do it because they enjoy it, no further qualifications necessary.
But OTOH, nope. The copypasta is pumped-up to 11 when it comes to the capacity of gamers to be a community, to organise, take joint action, be a force, everything. I’d be easy to go “no true gamer” on some people but face it “gamers” as a group are still pre-ordering games and letting GPU scalpers have their way with us. Just as powerless as, say, football fans are powerless in he face of FIFA corruption. Concert goes in the face of ticket platform monopolies. We’re a hopeless case in any other aspect but whinging: That, we are masters of.
this might be enough for people to switch phones to android, you dont mess with peoples addiction to games.
Fortnite hasn’t been on iOS for like 5 years already at this point, anyone who was going to change ecosystem because of Fortnite is long gone.
There are so many platforms that Fortnite is on that it not being on iOS isn’t an actual issue.
They’ll be right back unless they’re downright chemically addicted. Android is a shovelware trash operating system.
Like for expample the Bluetooth quick tile sorting by most recently paired Instead of most recently connected (and no its not rearrangeable without re-pairing devices)
I get not liking android but your best example being that you can’t sort Bluetooth devices is just ???
That’s not my best example. It’s a randomly chosen one. Why did you assume it was my best example.
Because it’s the only one you gave lol
“For example”
Usually you would want to provide a good example.
I mean, because most sane people lead with their best example 🤭
Are you saying I’m insane?
After so many dislikes, any moderately smart person would start introspecting in where they went wrong.
I have been. I guess I could have worded it better? Let me re-explain:
Both operating systems are F-tier trash heaps and the only reason I’m not using GNU+Linux is because of the security that Graphene provides and the fact that applications are made for Android. And no whatever emulator you may be about to suggest is not a good option. I’ve tried all of them and they all suck.
Android lets you actually install apps. iOS is slightly note usable from UX/smoothness standpoint. I’ve talked to many people from both sides. They don’t want to switch because they’re “fine” on what they use and can’t deal with loosing the minor advantage.
I use android but would instantly go back to iOS if I could just install whatever .IPA I wanted, and the system API wasn’t arbitrarally locked down for non-apple apps. The bullshit like apps not actually being able to run in the background, terrible non-rigid permissions, bullying from Apple, etc. are all comparible to the level of bullshit from AOSP such as the random example I gave above. There’s always something new that I uncover ever few weeks so I like to give that or some other random example every time I talk about it to highlight the extent of the bullshit.
Wow, what a short-sighted view. Android, despite its many shortcomings, gives you orders of magnitude more freedom in almost every way imaginable. And none of its shortcomings are blocking you from using it, rather more or less annoy you.
Is there any decent way on a normal android device to rsync sending data to the Android device from another system?
I’ve never tried it, but there appear to be some rsync apps on f-droid, you could try.
Its not short sighted its from several years of experience.
iOS is also trash shovelware but in a way that’s more usable/less haggle for most people.
iOS is also trash vaporware
I don’t think you understand what that word means.
Yeah, bro has no idea what he is taking about.
How so
How would you know that iOS is trash if it’s vaporware?
Fixed sorry
That’s the most specific and irrelevant example I’ve ever heard in my life lol
“This car is unusable and nobody will ever like it! Did you know that under the trunk, if you look at it with a UV light, the paint pattern is using a slightly different hue than the rest of the body?”
Fair
And iOS has shitty notifications. Both os have their advantages and downsides.
Whats wrong with the notifications?
nobody is forcing you to use the far superior operating system. it’s funny because I’m pretty sure most Android developers use Macs, as do many developers, but everyone who likes to use FOSS and have control of their device uses an AOSP based OS on their device.
I’m using graphene
And the fact that mobile apps pretty much only means iOS and Android forces me to do so.
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That is absolutely not what I said.
It wasn’t, but it also was 🫂
What
It doesn’t matter. None of this matters. Forget I said anything.
:(
All the best.
say their iPhone is preventing them from Installing what they want.
Mind blown that’s what you are paying 1000€ for every few years for you Starbucks capitalist - coffee (a coffee for about 25€ thats just a normal coffee so those Hippies can feel like they are fighting capitalism) drinking dipshit.
How does it take someone so long to realise one of the main points of a product they are buying? Like, its like if I’d use a toilet plunger from public bathrooms as totthbrushes, and just after getting e.coli 10 times I realised that they aren’t there to brush teeth.
You want the 3 f’s? Freedom, Foss and fortnite? Start standing up against such business practices.
While I agree with your point and energy, let’s not give anyone going to Starbucks the moniker of “hippie”. That is a sacred term reserved for the awesomest of people, and doesn’t need to be tarnished by the association with people that have more money than sense.
I keep trying to explain this to useful idiots but to no avail.
The money they keep throwing at corporations will always be used against them.
Yes. I’ll add to this that when I look at prices of hardware, it’s not even an option. Buying an iPhone would be equivalent to buying a good laptop, except you just can’t do much work on a PDA. When excluding actually doing work, as a tool for the job it’s equivalent to something 4 times cheaper.
And in addition to that it has disgusting elitist advertising, relies on sweatshops for production, and isn’t even fully usable without company’s permission to run this or that.
I wanted one when I thought they look very cool.
To be fair, Theres not really any phone that dosent use sweatshops except fairphone if you disregard the Qualcomm and other proprietary parts
But yes, Its really shitty, like, I am using an old samaung S3 as internet radio to this day, and an S7 with lineage as Retroarch gaming console, and they both run completely fine with and without battery. If those were iPhones from that era, they wouldn’t even work anymore
If you care about freedom, use open source operating systems, and only buy hardware that support it.
That title sounds redundant. “Apple banned fortnite. People are reporting that it’s banned.”
I surmised that people are more than just reporting the ban. They seem to be highlighting the unfair hand of Apple preventing them from doing what they want on their device
Didn’t they just have a court thing saying its illegal for apple to do so?
Didn’t they literally just lose a court case about this very thing?
I think the case was more about the store front(app store) and the percentage they impose without alternatives.
SailFishOS looking real good right now
Epic is a piece of shit company. The only reason they are fighting this fight with Apple is because they want some of Apple’s platform fees for themselves. Period.
The fact that they managed to convince a bunch of simpletons that they are somehow Robin Hood coming to free them from the tyrant (who was actually protecting all those users all along) is laughable. Apple created the platform, Apple managed it, curated it, and controlled it. That gives them the right to profit from it. You might dislike that but — guess what? Nobody forced you to buy it. Buy Android if Fortnight is so important to you. Seriously. Please. We won’t miss you.
Epic thinks they have a right to profit from Apple’s platform and not pay them for all the work they did to get it to be over 1 billion users. That is simply wrong. They should build their own platform and their own App Store and convince 1 billion people to use it. The reason they aren’t doing that is because they know they will never be as successful as Apple has been.
Good. Play better games. Like Elden Ring.
you’re not even my real dad
It’s not good. In my understanding Fortnite didn’t break any rules of appstore, so it was banned because of bias. Someone didn’t like it so it got banned, which shouldn’t happen in global market.
Honestly Fortnite mobile wasn’t very enjoyable to begin with
their iPhone is preventing them from playing the game
Epic are the ones preventing Fortnite from being available on iPhones. They have no one to blame but themselves for the way they planned to intentionally break the App Store rules and had a lawsuit ready to go when it was rightly removed from the store.
They fucked around and found out.
Lol, siding with apple here is a bootlicker thing to do.
You guys need to find a new name to call people.
Epic were the bad guys in this scenario. Why are you licking the boot of epic?
Why is anybody licking big corporate boot in the first place? How does that benefit you?
I wasn’t “licking big corporate boot” in the first place. I said that epic have no one but themselves to blame, which is true. I said if epic did to me what they did to Apple, I’d tell them to get fucked if they ever tried to put stuff on my store again.
No bootlicking at all, but that doesn’t stop some losers from throwing out the term because they hate company X. Apple built a product, and they’re entitled to make it a closed ecosystem. We, as consumers, are entitled to not buy or use their products if we don’t like them, their policies, etc.
People vote with their wallets, and unfortunately for the Apple haters, the votes keep coming up Apple no matter how many recounts there are. Android is right there as an alternative and lets you do basically whatever you want with it, yet outside of third world countries the iPhone rules the roost.
Funny someone with your username would advocate for people who outright bought a piece of hardware to be controlled by the manufacturer in terms of what they can do with their device, while also forcefully taking an enormous cut of any transactions involving it.
Epic has forced Apple to give users more options, and that’s a good thing. Epic are usually the bad guys - this time they weren’t.
Epic intentionally broke the rules of the contract they agreed to, and had a lawsuit ready to go as soon as Apple rightfully removed their game from the store over the breach of contract. Epic were not the good guys.
You guys need to get this idea out of your head that the makers of the device that you bought need to provide ways for you to do what you want with it. They don’t, and any attempt to force them to write software to do so should be denied.
You can do whatever the hell you like with your hardware. Take it apart, take it fishing, try and hack it, have sex with it - whatever you want! But the device makers aren’t responsible for giving you ways to hack it.
You guys need to get this idea out of your head that the makers of the device that you bought need to provide ways for you to do what you want with it. They don’t, and any attempt to force them to write software to do so should be denied.
You can do whatever the hell you like with your hardware. Take it apart, take it fishing, try and hack it, have sex with it - whatever you want! But the device makers aren’t responsible for giving you ways to hack it.
You’re looking at this the wrong way.
We do not expect Apple/Google/Samsung/etc to give us tools to do whatever we want. Hell, Google already ships
adbthat explicitly allows unlocking the bootloader on at least Pixel devices.What we do want is for companies to stop intentionally preventing it with arbitrary restrictions that amount to nothing more than “because we said so”.
That’s fine to want, but you’re not entitled to it and never should be.
When did I ever say I was entitled to it?
Furthermore, why are you so eager to lick corporate boot over this? Just accept the fact that corps are fucking consumers over by trying to redefine terms like “purchase” and “own” to mean something other than their existing widely-accepted definitions.
If I buy an expensive piece of hardware, I do expect to be able to own it and install what I goddamn well please, corporate approval be damned. That’s why I buy Pixels and standard PC hardware, because I can unlock the bootloader/disable secure boot and install what I goddamn well please. Can’t do that with any iPhone, and rarely a Mac, because it goes against what Daddy Apple hath decreed.
Additionally, it is also acceptable to acknowledge the former and simultaneously acknowledge that Epic is a shitty company. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
I was about to give a genuine reply, then I read your second sentence and now I realize there’s no point. Straight to the tired old garbage “boot licker” insults. Have fun.
I have a genuine question:
How does arguing in support of arguably bad business practices in general benefit you?
What are the “arguably bad business practices” here? I would argue that Epic pissing off the manufacturer of the most popular phones in the world, which have over 90% of all in-app purchase $$$$ spent in the mobile world, is bad business practice - not even arguably.
As for anything “benefiting me”……am I not allowed an opinion or to express it unless it’s echo chamber aligned? Is it only allowed if it ignores all logic and is just mindless anger against [insert big corporation name here]?
I’m giving context to the situation.
Keep it up Apple, keep pissing off the gamers. Shrink that monopoly. Seems pretty fucking insane that they can stop an app from working remotely. If an app that is being used to coordinate a rebellion takes off the US government can order Apple to disable its use. I hope the degoogling Android trend takes off further.
If an app that is being used to coordinate a rebellion takes off the US government can order Apple to disable its use. I hope the degoogling Android trend takes off further.
Apple already did this in Hong Kong to appease China. They took down apps that were used by protesters to coordinate, they even modified AirDrop so it couldn’t be easily used for ad hoc communication.
Yeah keep pissing off gamers. The pro consumer group that got lootboxes, battlepasses, denuvo, endless copy pastes and lazy remakes, nintendo and sony practises, shameless pay to win, day 1 on disk dlc, anti cheat that just blocks only linux users, not cheaters, kernel level anti cheat, ea and ubisoft clients on steam games and pay to win mechanics on already full priced games popular and successful.
Apple is NOT ready for the way gamers are going to make this practise normalized and profitable.
As a gamer I have very low respect for other gamers ability to organise any levels of resistance to shifty business practices.
How they actually spend their money never lies. They moan, but they still pre-order shit like gibbering apes.
Doubt I have paid full price for a AAA game in like a decade at this point. Not even many that I bought. Does shadow of mordor count? I got that at a massive discount ages after release. It was ok, but I would want my money back if I had paid full price.
Imagine if now, at the height of their success, Apple finally decided, for the first time, to alienate the core audience they’ve always shown undying dedication to: gamers /s
If you’re trying to organise a rebellion via any privately owned company, you’re a fucking idiot.
GaMeRs aren’t going to do shit to Apple lol. Fortnite hasn’t been on iPhones for years and Apple hasn’t been hurt one bit.
If an app that is being used to coordinate a rebellion takes off the US government can……
lol
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We’re a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We’ll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it’s fun.
We’ll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We’re already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren’t shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We’ve been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that’s already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they’ve threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can’t is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You’re not special, you’re not original, you’re not the first; this is just another boss fight.
I have a very particular set of skills…
It’s actually Epic’s fault this time. They pulled it from the EU app store.
Finding it hard to sympathise with either of these dickhead corporations. Let 'em sue each other into bankruptcy for all I care.
They pulled all iOS versions because their iOS update couldn’t be approved in time (they’re live service and need simultaneous updates on all platforms) and “Apple has blocked our Fortnite submission so we cannot release to the US App Store or to the Epic Games Store for iOS in the European Union.”
Plus nobody playing Fortnite on an iPhone anyway
Yes they are.
The article literally says they aren’t
At this very moment? No. In general? Yes.
At this very moment, no.
iPad
Removed by mod
There’s also Linux phones
Alright Chad… I don’t think the normie stream is ready for it haha
This is the year of linux desktop tho ✊
Neither are “normies” “ready” for degoogled Android.
Spoken like a true rebel. My respects.
