You mean the continuing resolution that would have caused a government shut down which Trump would have used to take more power and a meaningless symbolic vote?
You mean the continuing resolution that would have caused a government shut down which Trump would have used to take more power
That’s a cute excuse. If they’re not going to ever use the filibuster, they should have killed it to protect Roe and voting rights. But since the filibuster is an easy way to block progressive legislation, they won’t. They won’t play offense when they have the ball and won’t play defense when they lose the ball.
and a meaningless symbolic vote?
Yeah, democrats have sunk to the level where they won’t even do meaningless symbolic shit.
Mostly yes, but the point is that the filibuster is/was their excuse for not doing shit to help the people when they could. DNC party hacks like to say “but they didn’t have a filibuster-proof majority!!!” when people point out that the DNC has done exactly zilch to remedy America’s long-term problems, so it’s important to remember that keeping the filibuster was a choice by the DNC made for that purpose.
The last time the Dems had a filibuster proof trifecta, it was for about 2 months and they passed Obamacare. The Repubs spent the next decade trying to break it. The Democrats have a lot of issues, but they are NOT the major problem here.
Yes, they passed Obamacare, a Republican policy thought up by Heritage Foundation. Also note that they only passed the ACA when they should’ve damn near rebuilt the country from scratch. If this is the kind of policy Americans can expect when the Democrats have a trifecta and a massive grassroots movement, then you’re basically making my point for me, but that’s beside the point. The bigger problem is that they kept the filibuster and keep keeping the filibuster when they could’ve abolished it twice. Keeping the filibuster is a choice, so the whole talk about a filibuster-proof majority is nothing more than “sorry I shot myself in the foot so I can’t come help you even though it’s literally my job, now give me more money”.
IIRC, the Democrats used the filibuster more during Trump’s first term than the Republicans did during Obama’s second term. It is a highly flawed tool, but it does have its uses. Yeah, we are going to be able to pass more things we want, but so will the opposition.
I think we should get rid of the filibuster because it has allowed the Executive to take more power. That doesn’t mean it will be entirely positive. It might even be a net negative. Remember that we got rid of the filibuster for supreme court appointments and that is what allowed the Republicans to take a supermajority there.
Can’t filibuster executive orders.
And has all of trump’s agenda been executive orders? The continuing resolution schumer caved on? The vote to thank ICE?
You mean the continuing resolution that would have caused a government shut down which Trump would have used to take more power and a meaningless symbolic vote?
That’s a cute excuse. If they’re not going to ever use the filibuster, they should have killed it to protect Roe and voting rights. But since the filibuster is an easy way to block progressive legislation, they won’t. They won’t play offense when they have the ball and won’t play defense when they lose the ball.
Yeah, democrats have sunk to the level where they won’t even do meaningless symbolic shit.
“we can’t do x because he’ll use it to take power.”
Let’s him take that power anyway.
He’s not asking for permission, and just allowing his shit to go unchecked let’s him de facto do it anyway.
So we agree they should’ve done away with the filibuster?
Yes, but that would have affected virtually nothing Trump has done since gaining office again.
Mostly yes, but the point is that the filibuster is/was their excuse for not doing shit to help the people when they could. DNC party hacks like to say “but they didn’t have a filibuster-proof majority!!!” when people point out that the DNC has done exactly zilch to remedy America’s long-term problems, so it’s important to remember that keeping the filibuster was a choice by the DNC made for that purpose.
The last time the Dems had a filibuster proof trifecta, it was for about 2 months and they passed Obamacare. The Repubs spent the next decade trying to break it. The Democrats have a lot of issues, but they are NOT the major problem here.
Yes, they passed Obamacare, a Republican policy thought up by Heritage Foundation. Also note that they only passed the ACA when they should’ve damn near rebuilt the country from scratch. If this is the kind of policy Americans can expect when the Democrats have a trifecta and a massive grassroots movement, then you’re basically making my point for me, but that’s beside the point. The bigger problem is that they kept the filibuster and keep keeping the filibuster when they could’ve abolished it twice. Keeping the filibuster is a choice, so the whole talk about a filibuster-proof majority is nothing more than “sorry I shot myself in the foot so I can’t come help you even though it’s literally my job, now give me more money”.
IIRC, the Democrats used the filibuster more during Trump’s first term than the Republicans did during Obama’s second term. It is a highly flawed tool, but it does have its uses. Yeah, we are going to be able to pass more things we want, but so will the opposition.
I think we should get rid of the filibuster because it has allowed the Executive to take more power. That doesn’t mean it will be entirely positive. It might even be a net negative. Remember that we got rid of the filibuster for supreme court appointments and that is what allowed the Republicans to take a supermajority there.