Vladimir Putin has said any western troops placed in Ukraine would be “legitimate targets” for Russian strikes, upping the stakes as Kyiv’s allies scramble to come up with a convincing offer of postwar support to Ukraine.

Speaking a day after the French president, Emmanuel Macron, announced still-vague plans for a package of support for Ukraine backed by 26 nations, Putin on Friday said any guarantees that involved boots on the ground would violate Moscow’s longstanding objections to Nato troops in Ukraine.

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  • n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    War makes money for the rich, of course they love it. Ya make money and the poors get culled, win win ib their eyes…

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      Not just the poors, but it’s usually the meatheads that get sent to war. On both sides, you’ll find some of the most deplorable people are the most entrenched in war culture. They don’t value their lives and see themselves as having no better options.

      I hope one day we understand some of the philosophy behind war, and whether or not it’s necessary when there are “too many soldiers.”

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      Not in this setup. He makes issues even selling weapons to Ukraine.

      He likely is getting personal money for sabotaging Ukraine (most likely by the shit coins he set up)

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        He is playing middleman, selling to Ukraine and bad mouthing for Putin, ib the end the military industrial complex still wins

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          What he did is to make Europe desperately look to produce as much weapons as they can to replace US ones.

          Also MIC was huge during could war, but does it really matter today? Put Boeing or Lockheed Martin next to Apple, Google, Amazing etc It is no longer significant compared with tech industry.

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      A dumb take considering the imperialist (and genocidal) history of russia.

      They weren’t doing good in the 90s, didn’t stop them for invading Moldova, Ichkeria and getting involved in the Caucasus with malicious intentions.

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        Russia economy is currently running off of war. If it ends Russia is fucked as the only other money maker they have is oil and it will be a good decadw before they can get back to pre war production.

        Maybe ya should read General Smedley Buttlers ‘War is a racket’

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          What does this have to do with russian imperialism?

          Was the russian economy running off of war in the 90s too?

          Does Smedly Buttlers speak russian? I am genuinely curious.

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            Read the damn speech

            1990 ≠ 2025

            It doesnt matter, he explains why war is a racket with in depth personal knowledge of why it is.

            Putin is a power hungry goblin, in this world money is power. If ya don’t understand that then you shouldnt be replying

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              No, chances are I have more in-depth personal knowledge of war than that fellow (don’t forget, the russians invaded in 2014).

              To claim that all of war is based on cold war era “military industrial complex” polemics is ahistorical and doesn’t align with reality.

              If that speech is as relevant as you claim, you should have no problems with explaining in 3-5 sentences how it is relevant in the context of this discussion.

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                Well no point in going any further wirh this convo, you think you know more about war and what a military complex is than a general who had served in multiple wars, all while you dont know what a military industrial complex is. You have 0 interest in learning what it is. Also Smedley wrote the speech in 1934 before there was WWII, yet alone cold war. And the military industrial complex was alive then too.

                If that speech is as relevant as you claim, you should have no problems with explaining in 3-5 sentences how it is relevant in the context of this discussion.

                No, it can not be summed up in 3-5 sentences, thag ia why he wrote the fucking speech, read the damn speech, ya wasted more time writing this than it would have taken to read the fucking thing.

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        Russia is as genocidal as western countries they still sell weapon to israel to exterminate palestinians

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          No, this is incorrect.

          Not all western countries sell weapons to Israel.

          And you need to read up on russian history (at least 20th century).

          One thing that I learned after moving to Lemmy is how vapid, trope-like and uninspired western “leftists” are in their thinking.

          No wonder we have the rise of Donald Trump and significant gains among far right/pro-corruption forces.

          There are of course other factors too (information age etc.), but I digress.

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            Not all western countries sell weapons to Israel

            The most powererful ones does sell weapons to israel though. Even buying from them allow israel to use thay money to reinvest in the genocide

            And you need to read up on russian history (at least 20th century)

            When you read history you see how the other was as bad as russisn history of bloody especially the usa

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              You clearly have no clue what you are talking if you think russia is anywhere close to the US.

              It would be like if during the invasion of Iraq, the US annexed Basra, banned Islam, sent anyone caught speaking arabic into basement torture camps and sent hundreds of thousand Iraqi children to Texas and made them eat pork chops and read about how great US oligarchs are.

              So you were wrong about all western countries selling weapons to Israel.