Israel did not have a realistic plan for regime change when it attacked Iran, multiple Israeli security sources have said, with expectations that airstrikes could lead to a popular uprising having been driven by “wishful thinking” rather than hard intelligence.

Iran has survived nearly two weeks of bombing raids and the assassination of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and Trump is publicly contemplating ending the increasingly costly war.

If Iran’s new leadership keeps its grip on power, the long-term measure of the success of the conflict may hang on the fate of 440kg of enriched uranium which was buried under a mountain by US strikes last June, former and serving Israeli defence and intelligence sources said. Enough for more than 10 nuclear warheads, Iran could use it to hasten the construction of a weapon if the material remains in the country.

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    Oof that is some pretty shitty reasoning. The US, just with the war on drugs for instance. The peak was over one hundred thousand people dead in 2023 alone. Every single death is preventable, but the US continues to choose to attack the poor and minorities instead of engaging in harm reduction.

    Then consider deaths to gun violence. We have lost 1.5 million citizens in the last 30 years. More than every single US soldier lost in every single war we have fought.

    Should other nations use this as a pretext to invade the U$ to free its oppressed population?

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      You’re comparing social crises to state-directed mass killing. Those aren’t equivalent under international law or humanitarian doctrine. The threshold people talk about for intervention is typically genocide, ethnic cleansing, or large-scale state violence against civilians.

      Social problems like drug overdoses and gun violence are not the same as a government slaughtering civilians. Conflating the two is a false equivalence.

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        The war on drugs is the very definition of large scale state directed killing. Need I remind you that the real reason the War on Drugs started was to go after minorities. Over a million families destroyed by the war on drugs but not a big deal.

        Not only that, but the CIA created the crack epidemic and US drug manufacturers created the opioid epidemic.

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          Harmful policy and deliberate mass killing are not the same thing.

          The War on Drugs has caused real damage, but comparing incarceration and social harm to governments intentionally slaughtering civilians is exactly the kind of false equivalence that makes serious discussions impossible.

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            I am thinking you are ignorant of history.

            https://lawrepository.ualr.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2106&context=lawreview

            The War on Drugs was a purposeful attack on minorities. You can’t whitewash the truth away. We attacked our fellow citizens to appease racists.

            The results speak for themselves. Millions of lives lost and you hand waiving it away. You don’t get to do this. You don’t get to ignore the militarization and invasion of our police forces. You don’t get to decide that these people don’t matter.

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              The War on Drugs absolutely caused serious harm and disproportionately impacted minority communities. That’s widely documented. But acknowledging that doesn’t make it equivalent to governments intentionally killing civilians. Harmful policy and discriminatory enforcement are not the same thing as deliberate mass slaughter. Conflating those two things is exactly the kind of false equivalence that derails serious discussion.

              Are you actually arguing that the War on Drugs is equivalent to governments intentionally slaughtering their own civilians?

              Because acknowledging that the policy caused harm and was discriminatory doesn’t make it the same category of wrongdoing as deliberate mass killing.