Solid state batteries do not exist. I don’t know how many times I need to say this.
How long does it take to travel 100km in an EV vs a diesel car?
How long does it take to refuel/recharge an EV to travel 1000km vs a diesel car?
That’s why EVs don’t work for farming and transport.
AC essentially uses no fuel in modern cars. It gets VERY hot in Australia, and guess what is the enemy of batteries? Heat.
Households getting “free” power during the day (at the cost of more expensive power when you actually need it, at night time lol) doesn’t help farmers or transport companies. That’s when they’re out working, not charging.
It takes the same time to travel 100km in both. Why would you think a truck moves faster. If you mean 1000km, still the same time, because in both cases, the driver needs to take 30mins mandatory rest breaks. However, the EV truck operating cost is 80%+ cheaper (the driver can simply charge the truck during their rest break)
BYD blade batteries charge 400km in 5mins now. Basically, the same as a car… You’re absolutely deluded if you don’t think that won’t be a lot faster in 5 years (which fyi, isn’t a lifetime)… And, the cost per km is barely anything, vs a big chunk of money that goes straight to petrol companies
A tesla Semi can charge 500km in 30mins and has 800km range. Truck drivers have mandatory rest breaks… Truckies are only allowed to work 12 hours a day. And, they require 60mins of rest within the first 11 hours. So, thats 1300km of charge in a day, that can happen whilst they’re resting… Very Achievable, and the fuel costs mostly nothing… Whereas, the cost for diesel fuel is un-competitive, even if the driver fucked around for an extra hour a day.
In china, they already have battery swap stations. They take 3 mins… We don’t have them here yet, but, we likely will eventually. It would be expected that similar technologies could be adapted for farms. However, the real point is, that Tesla Semi’s could take 5 mins, and cost barely anything to charge 800km (so, 1x5min stop at a battery station a day)
For courier companies, most couriers actually return to the depot multiple times a day, the vans don’t magically load themselves, and they need food too…
EV are 80%+ cheaper PER KM to operate. Diesel is substantially worse now, and every year, batteries are getting CHEAPER. Diesel is getting MORE EXPENSIVE!
Again, 300 mining trucks have been ordered by Fortescue… I’m sure they’ve done the maths
You must be living in la la land, where diesel only costs 30c still, and Truck drivers drive 18hrs / 2000km a day lol. Also, on planet freedomadvocate, solar doesn’t exist and EV batteries need replacement every year lol.
I’m guessing you’d be the guy onsite with the electric drill who spends 3 hours a day waiting in front of a makita charger, instead of having 2 sets of batteries and charging overnight or/and during lunch breaks lol
Such a silly argument… i suggest you actually go do your research. I’m not responding again (as you’re clearly don’t realise that EV’s charge overnight, and start the day fresh at 100%). They’re not suitable for 100% of applications, but almost all of them
Sorry yes I meant 1000km, not 100km, like in my other question.
If you mean 1000km, still the same time, because in both cases, the driver needs to take 30mins mandatory rest breaks.
And refueling time? Hours for the EV. A minute for the diesel.
Truck drivers have mandatory rest breaks…
If you think truck drivers abide by these mandatory rest breaks you’re delusional.
EV are 80%+ cheaper PER KM to operate. Diesel is substantially worse now, and every year, batteries are getting CHEAPER. Diesel is getting MORE EXPENSIVE!
EVs might be cheaper to operate, but not when you already have diesel vehicles that don’t need to be replaced for another 600k+ km. Battery manufacturing costs are getting cheaper, but cost to consumer is staying the same, and will only increase as we become more dependant on it.
I would love to buy a $35k BYD Atto 2 and pay a few bucks to recharge it…but I already have an owned outright diesel runaround car that gets 800km to a ~$60 tank. How long would it take me to make $35k in savings after buying the BYD? Much longer than the lifespan of the BYD.
When you’re in the market for a new car, EVs are super attractive. When you’ve already got a car, however, switching to one makes zero sense.
Again, 300 mining trucks have been ordered by Fortescue… I’m sure they’ve done the maths
Cool, lets see them actually receive and use them before we go and claim victory. Many companies have ordered fleets of electric vehicles to replace their diesel/petrol ones only to never actually drive a single km with them.
Truck drivers a month ago “wahhh, diesel is so expensive, we demand the government gives us handouts, we’ve been struggling for so long and we don’t get paid much”. I simply compare to EV’s, and suddenly apparently diesel ISN’T expensive, and 30mins of your time, is super valuable and costs the company a huge amount. Most truckies return to the depot multiple times in a day (where they could charge). They’re not all doing interstate trips…
I’m not sure what decade you’re living in either. I used to drive a small toyota hatchback, and 20 years ago it cost more than $30 for 800km. Unless your car is a ride on mower, I doubt it lol
What I find particularly hilarious is the prolific racism amongst Truckies (particularly on facebook), especially those claiming they don’t speak english well… And yet, I’ve mentioned multiple times how BYD Blade batteries are full enough in 5 mins (actually 97% charge in 10), and apparently you keep missing it. Full charge is NOT important. In fact, in Aviation, you rarely fly with full tanks
Solid state batteries do not exist. I don’t know how many times I need to say this.
How long does it take to travel 100km in an EV vs a diesel car?
How long does it take to refuel/recharge an EV to travel 1000km vs a diesel car?
That’s why EVs don’t work for farming and transport.
AC essentially uses no fuel in modern cars. It gets VERY hot in Australia, and guess what is the enemy of batteries? Heat.
Households getting “free” power during the day (at the cost of more expensive power when you actually need it, at night time lol) doesn’t help farmers or transport companies. That’s when they’re out working, not charging.
You must be living in la la land, where diesel only costs 30c still, and Truck drivers drive 18hrs / 2000km a day lol. Also, on planet freedomadvocate, solar doesn’t exist and EV batteries need replacement every year lol.
I’m guessing you’d be the guy onsite with the electric drill who spends 3 hours a day waiting in front of a makita charger, instead of having 2 sets of batteries and charging overnight or/and during lunch breaks lol
Such a silly argument… i suggest you actually go do your research. I’m not responding again (as you’re clearly don’t realise that EV’s charge overnight, and start the day fresh at 100%). They’re not suitable for 100% of applications, but almost all of them
And refueling time? Hours for the EV. A minute for the diesel.
If you think truck drivers abide by these mandatory rest breaks you’re delusional.
EVs might be cheaper to operate, but not when you already have diesel vehicles that don’t need to be replaced for another 600k+ km. Battery manufacturing costs are getting cheaper, but cost to consumer is staying the same, and will only increase as we become more dependant on it.
I would love to buy a $35k BYD Atto 2 and pay a few bucks to recharge it…but I already have an owned outright diesel runaround car that gets 800km to a ~$60 tank. How long would it take me to make $35k in savings after buying the BYD? Much longer than the lifespan of the BYD.
When you’re in the market for a new car, EVs are super attractive. When you’ve already got a car, however, switching to one makes zero sense.
Cool, lets see them actually receive and use them before we go and claim victory. Many companies have ordered fleets of electric vehicles to replace their diesel/petrol ones only to never actually drive a single km with them.
Truck drivers a month ago “wahhh, diesel is so expensive, we demand the government gives us handouts, we’ve been struggling for so long and we don’t get paid much”. I simply compare to EV’s, and suddenly apparently diesel ISN’T expensive, and 30mins of your time, is super valuable and costs the company a huge amount. Most truckies return to the depot multiple times in a day (where they could charge). They’re not all doing interstate trips…
I’m not sure what decade you’re living in either. I used to drive a small toyota hatchback, and 20 years ago it cost more than $30 for 800km. Unless your car is a ride on mower, I doubt it lol
What I find particularly hilarious is the prolific racism amongst Truckies (particularly on facebook), especially those claiming they don’t speak english well… And yet, I’ve mentioned multiple times how BYD Blade batteries are full enough in 5 mins (actually 97% charge in 10), and apparently you keep missing it. Full charge is NOT important. In fact, in Aviation, you rarely fly with full tanks