• CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Eventually, you won’t be able to and we’ll be back to what my generation learned early on, don’t trust what you see on the Internet.

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    Did you worry about photoshops too? Because many of those were absolutely hard to tell

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    Watermarking never meant to be a legitimate way of telling this stuff apart. Anyone slightly savvy could run a generator locally and produce images without watermarking, if they really meant to fool others. You are right in that the watermarking makes it (or did) more difficult for the average joe, but yeah. This is a never was kind of scenario

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    We can’t tell the difference anymore - we simply can’t trust anything on social media anymore as it’s mostly not true - also print and broadcast media are equally lies…

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    Reverse image search? If it had a watermark then it’s probably been posted somewhere before. If it hasn’t, then no you can’t really know. You can get a sense for common AI styles and features, but unless the original artist posted it somewhere, in certain cases you’re just guessing.

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    It’s fundamentally impossible to watermark digital data permanently without controlling the hardware so the only answer here is to use brain.

    I suspect hardware watermarking market will emerge as those types of watermarks are much harder to remove. I.e. the phone camera uses cryptography to sign that this picture was taken by a real phone. So proof will be inverted and that might actually be a good thing.

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    If you can establish that it was written before 2021 or so, it’s probably not from an LLM. That kind of text has been compared to “low background steel”, typically salvaged from ships sunk in WW2 or earlier. Low background steel is a valuable commodity used for some types of highly sensitive instruments. Steel made in August 1945 or later, especially post 1950-ish, always has trace amounts of radioactivity from u-know-what.

    Note that contamination is contagious. Even if you know that a human wrote something post-2021, for example because you wrote it yourself, you still can’t say it’s guaranteed AI-free, because of how AI has warped language and to some extent everyone’s minds.

    https://englishlanguagestudies.com/the-impact-of-artificial-intelligence/

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/urban-survival/202507/the-emerging-problem-of-ai-psychosis

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

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      A.I. has quietly added quietly to everything. You can tell if a YouTube video script has A.I. assistance if they say quietly a lot. I dunno why it’s obsessed with that word. Sneaky fuckers

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    Look up ai rating instructions for instruction following, correctness, naturalness, and composition, they always tend to fail on one of those fronts and if you learn to identify them like a trainer it is easier to notice

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      Main thing I always see is either text legible and somehow always facing the camera, like every sign and window is perfectly aligned so none face away from the camera or text is blurry gibberish. Harder to tell without text, but then it’s usually some sort of composition (lighting, textures) or correctness (extra fingers, illogical placement) issue.

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      Right? The haters just want to be able to label everything. It’s a form of OCD.