please post any subsequent updates here unless they’re huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don’t have to be their own thread

  • LostRedditor@lemmy.ml
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    There’s something up. Both putin and Wagners head aren’t stupid.

    I feel it’s a plan to justify future actions.

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      Yes, Poutine highly control GRU with an iron glove, and Wagner is controlled by GRU. It’s a masquerade to kick choigou and guerassimov because they are bad.

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        Wagner opened fire on Russian forces. Shot down helicopters and apparently at least one transport plane. That’s a lot for just playacting. No pretense would be needed to replace a general in wartime. It’s a common occurrence throughout history, and Putin wouldn’t need an excuse either way, since he answers to no one in the Russian government. As to the statement that neither Putin nor Prigozhin are stupid… Well this entire conflict has provided an enormous amount of evidence to the contrary.

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        It makes both Putin and Prigozhin look bad though. Would they go through this damage to their reputations and prospects just for that? And couldn’t Putin just have fired those guys without going through some elaborate pantomime first?

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          Putin benefited from:

          1. Showed that the largest military group couldn’t complete a coup
          2. No longer need to justify the damage Wagner group done
          3. Shows Russian that he prefer to negotiate rather than bloodshed
          4. Shows international theatre that Russian troops are loyal, peaceful, and follow orders
          5. Identified disloyal government officials who sided with Wagner if any

          And the list goes on

          Wagner head got out of it and terrorisim accusations in the future

          I’m still thinking that it’s not over. Moscow still on high alert.