On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it’s no longer trustworthy?

The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

  • leadore@lemmy.world
    18·
    9 天前

    I just installed Librewolf today, using it now. Being a fork of FF it makes a very smooth transition.

  • ClownsInSpace2@lemm.eeEnglish
    13·
    9 天前

    I use a similar set up. Librewolf on Linux and IronFox on Android. You could still use a Firefox account to sync, but I wouldn’t. I’ve heard there’s a way to host an older version of Firefox sync locally, but I haven’t looked into it.

  • MrSulu@lemmy.mlEnglish
    7·
    8 天前

    I’ve been using LibraWolf on desktop for several years now. It’s just far simpler than modifying standard Firefox. for my personal needs.

    • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
      2·
      8 天前

      LibreWolf is great ! Coming from ArkenFox, I found LibreWolf’s override cfg a bit easier.

      They also have a pacdiff cfg to see what changes from version to version without the need to roam arkenfoxes github repo for hours to find what changed or what to change.

      I installed it yesterday to see how it goes :) If it doesn’t fit, will go back to Arkenfox.

  • Sonalder@lemmy.ml
    71·
    8 天前

    If you want to keep the Gecko Engine from Mozilla to support an alternative to Google’s monopoly here are a couple alternative for Linux :

    • Librewolf
    • Mullvad Browser
    • Zen Browser

    For Android you have to be aware that unfortunately every firefox based browser lack of per-site isolation unlike chromium browsers.

    • IronFox (active fork of Mull by DivestOS)
    • Fennec

    On the dark side of the spectrum you have chromium browser such as :

    • Brave (Linux & Android) (disable cryptocrap, sponsor backgrounds and it’s quite good)
    • Cromite (Android)
    • d-RLY?@lemmy.ml
      2·
      4 天前

      I have been daily driving Zen and aside from some random issues here and there when they mess with the UI (which is to be expected with a beta). It kind of reminds me of how cool Firefox felt back in the day coming from IE. Has been fun to see real progress and effort to try weird things that are local to the browser. Not trying to acquire costly extra services/products that take resources away from the browser. I just really wish Mozilla would have (or even start) allowing people to donate towards just the browser.

      Some of the extra stuff they have have the option to directly support. The browser is still worth being a real option that isn’t just some Chromium-based BS. Yet they keep trying to divert money to everything but it. I hope that the major forks of FF start tying to prepare for going forward in the main code without Mozilla when/if the time comes. This new IE that is Chrome/Chromium can’t be allowed to keep going and dictating what is and isn’t allowed.

      I also have LibreWolf and Mullvad (along with tor) and like them for the efforts in privacy and security. But are too restrictive for daily use for me. Mostly use them only with VPN when finding torrents and other stuff that I don’t want to be tied to an account/syncing (not just NSFW but searching and looking into political or questionable topics). Very happy to have options no matter what.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      8 天前

      For Android you have to be aware that unfortunately every firefox based browser lack of per-site isolation unlike chromium browsers.

      Wait really? Its 2025, seriously, what is Mozilla doing?

      • d-RLY?@lemmy.ml
        2·
        4 天前

        Vivaldi is pretty awesome. The massive levels of customization are next level compared to other Chromium options. I use it first if needing to use a site that is hard-coded to reject Firefox or other non-Chromium browsers. Also use it as a feed reader a lot.

  • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    71·
    9 天前

    LibreWolf is what I use, but I heard Zen Browser is another fork that’s been getting some traction. I don’t use it though, but I’ve heard from someone who does that it works for them. thumbs-up

    • Xanza@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      8 天前

      Been using Zen for the past week. It takes some getting used to, but it’s been great so far.

    • rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world
      0·
      8 天前

      Zen looks good, but being more unique couldn’t it get fingerprinted more easily?

      Also their community is on Discord, which to me is a red flag quite frankly. I realize it’s separate from the browser, but still. Discord no good.

  • datendefekt@feddit.org
    4·
    8 天前

    So I haven’t been following the Firefox thing that closely. Fennec isn’t an alternative because it uses Firefox’s Sync and Brave is out of the question because it’s crypto Chrome?

  • alykanas@slrpnk.netEnglish
    38·
    8 天前

    Just amazing how people wake up, watch a bit of YouTube and run to social media saying the sky is falling in.

    • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
      3·
      8 天前

      Or you can stay on a sinking ship convince yourself “It’s fine !” until it’s too late?

      Whatever chose your poison 🤷

      • alykanas@slrpnk.netEnglish
        1·
        8 天前

        Interesting metaphor.

        At what point is too late ? What the consequences here, of giving it a few days? Of understanding to steps you can take protect your data ?

        Because what you have now, is a bunch of idiots, running round yelling “Firefox is untrustworthy “. And jumping straight on the next fork of 20 million lines of code, because Internet bro says it’s better .

        They havent the faintest, and I mean the faintest idea of what trust is,

        • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
          1·
          8 天前

          I get you ! And you’re right. It’s never to late though, until it is. We/they have been betrayed more than once by big tech and monopoly, so I think it’s justified to feel a bit anxious when something out of bound to user’s privacy/consent is implemented in the only real alternative we have right now…

          I mean, sure Firefox is the only last bastion against big tech’s monopoly and all forks are depending on Firefox… So that’s not truely a real long term solution as alternative (If something is going to happen…). But as a long term Firefox user, I also have the feeling they are slowly following a dark/uncertain path.

          Sure, right now it’s not that of a big deal, but what if in 3 years it becomes a big deal? Imagine a scenario where all web browsers become controlled by one single entity? Wouldn’t it be good to have an alternative? (Yeah there is Tor already) This is only possible in this kind of “hysteria” where some people take the lead before it’s too late, otherwise we will be stuck for years without any working solution, while depending on big data’s scrapper/hoarder riddled with ads and privacy invasive browsing…

          Hope it make sense and that my arguments are somehow comprehensible? Not my first language so giving my best haha !

          Edit: It’s not a matter of if, but when (but I hope that doesn’t apply to Firefox)

          Edit2:

          Just think about the Linux kernel, right now it’s the only best alternative to Windows/MacOS and everything is perfect. But what will happen in a few years when Linus steps down? Will it still be as good as today? Will big tech take a step into the kernel? Will it become the next Windows/MacOS? Who knows… That’s why alternatives are always a good thing to have before it’s too late !!