Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and other European leaders have applauded the US for passing a vital €89 billion aid bill which has been struggling to make it through the House of Representatives for months.

The House swiftly approved roughly €89 billion in foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and other US allies in a rare Saturday session as Democrats and Republicans banded together after months of hard-right resistance over renewed American support for repelling Russia’s invasion.

With an overwhelming vote, €57 billion in aid for Ukraine passed in a matter of minutes, a strong showing as American lawmakers race to deliver a fresh round of US support to the war-torn ally. Many Democrats cheered on the House floor and waved blue-and-yellow flags of Ukraine.

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    Hot fucking damn, the russian bots are really out on parade in this comment section aren’t they?

    …Welp, not like they can parade IRL, so I guess they’ve got to take what they can get!

    Shame the TikTok ban went through, but a 60 billion package should give some fresh strength to the defenders of Ukraine.

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        At some point, the “russian bots are really out on parade” comments are practically a Markov Chain response in their own right.

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          There would be less talk about them if there weren’t so many and Russia wasn’t known for botting propaganda every chance they get.

          They are really obvious at this point.

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      Not at the rate they use it up. The Ukraine military budget has historically been measured in billions ($4-5B/annually going back to the end of the USSR). We’ve been giving them traunches of aid in the $50-100B range for the last three years. And that’s not including the logistical support we’ve provided out of the Pentagon’s baseline budget.

      2-4 years of Ukraine aid at the current scale would be on the order of trillions of dollars. That’s what we’re spending to play tag in Bakhmut at the cost of hundreds of lives a month. Not even what it would cost to “win” back the Donbas (or what would be left of it) in its entirety. Never even mind Crimea.

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      Fuck Russian scum, I hope the US missiles and tanks fuckin hurt. Putin is a goatfucker too.

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        Fuck Russian scum

        This should be banned for hate based on national origin

        You have more in common with the Russian working class that is being sent to die in Ukraine than you have in common with American billionaires.

        Putin, Russian Oligarchs, and American Oligarchs are your enemies. Not the common Russian men that are conscripted against their will to die for no reason

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          Cry harder that the Soviet Union collapsed and left the majority of Russian males a bunch of hopeless drunks obeying a piece of shit dictator like Putin. Cry harder that Ukraine resisted an unwarranted invasion based on fear of Russia’s continually waning power. Cry harder that Wagner almost kicked Putin’s ass and caused the Kremlin to have to backtrack.

          When I say “fuck Russian scum”, there are plenty of good hearted Russians, but the scum, fuck them. Putin is scum, btw, a piece of shit goat-fucking wannabe BITCH.

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      Oh geez…you’re spending way too much time on Lemmy/Reddit…Republicans are all in favor of helping Ukraine, they’re just more careful about sending billions and billions and it becomes an endless money pit…that shit happens all the time, and the Republicans are the “traitors” for questioning why and where all the money is being sent. If it was up to Democrats, there’d be NO questions… just send money!

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        I’m genuinely thankful you’ve made it this obvious how much of a fucking moron you are as I can block you immediately and get on with my day.

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          Let me guess, only left politics and democrats are your happy place? God forbid anyone disagrees…

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        Anybody who will actually take the time to read your comment by this point knows you’re full of shit. Republicans aren’t the party of fiscal responsibility. The only situation in which they actually care about saving money is if it saves money for their 1% handlers.

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          So, there should NO questioning funds that are sent all over the world? The US should just say “here, take whatever you want!”

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          “The United States needs to stop getting involved in everyone else’s business” - Sincerely, The World

          “The United States needs to do more to get involved in everyone else’s business” - Sincerely, The World

          I swear… if it’s not a war that’s supported by the Left, than we’re all traitors for questioning the finances behind it…

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          Who cares what Russia says? They’re also claiming Ukraine is rightfully there’s…the point is to make sure the funds are doing what they’re supposed too. If both sides just say “here, take whatever you want!” what good is that? It’s about checks and balances, we don’t want this to turn into another Vietnam…

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          Yes, it’s Reddit 2.0: “This is a Liberal/Democrat site ONLY!”

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          Hey man, I’m all in favor in helping Ukraine, I think we should absolutely do what we need to do…as do most Republicans. However, if history has taught us anything, it’s also that we cannot be an endless money pit for European affairs. I have no issues giving Ukraine money, but I think it’s always a good thing to question everything.

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      If this war is so important to you, why are you not over there right now fighting instead of a conscripted Ukrainian?

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      The republican traitor filth should be sent to the front

      Its curious to see someone propose that the punishment for opposing a war is to fight in it. But the reward for supporting the war is to profit from it.

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        Its curious to see someone propose that the punishment for opposing a war is to fight in it.

        Isn’t that literally the Russian policy?

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          I think the Russian policy is to conscript anyone currently in jail. But the Russian Federation has one of the highest prison populations in the world (475 per 100,000). The lion’s share of that population is guilty of petty theft, illegal drug use/sales, and vagrancy/illegal encampment.

          The US gave up on this conscription strategy after the Vietnam War, when a bunch of minority community groups like the Black Panthers and the Raza Unida Party started cropping up.

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            I can’t find what I was talking about now, but I’m sure there were reports about mobilisation being used as a punishment for speaking out against the “special military operation”.

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              There’s definitely instances of Russian political dissidents being thrown in jail. And from there, they’d get sucked up into the jail-to-combat pipeline.

              This isn’t strictly unusual for government agencies. The California state fire patrol is composed largely of prison labor. But training dissidents and vagrants in the art of war carries its own basket of problems. It only works if you do the Iran-Iraq War trick and have your dissidents-turned-soldiers in the worst possible conditions (in that case, Iranian Revolution student protesters were turned into shock troops expected to run across Iraqi mine fields).

              In the current state of the Ukraine-Russia War, its the Russians hiding behind the mine fields and the Ukrainians charging across them. But I’m more than confident that there’s some other low-skill high-lethality job for them to do. Maybe playing “The Most Dangerous Game” against Ukrainian drones, so Russian anti-drone units can target and shoot them down.

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    Hey, Republicans, do y’all remember Red Dawn? Those two movies you made about The USSR and Russia being the ultimate evil enemy that was going to invade and must be stopped? You do? Good.

    My real question is, why in the name of all that is Murican, ARE YOU ACTIVELY HELPING RUSSIA WITH THEIR ILLEGAL AND UNPROVOKED INVASION‽‽‽

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      Republicans are not helping anyone, you’re spending too much time on here buddy. Republicans simply want accountability for the aid. They ask questions, because if it was up to the Democrats, they’d just send, send, send…

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          They’re helping me. I’ve worked my ass off for what I have in life…it seems to me that the only party that continues to have their hands out are Democrats.

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    He doesn’t need to thank us, he deserves our thanks for fighting against fascism. Some of the best money the US has ever spent. Now, redirect all money from Israel to Ukraine.

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      he deserves our thanks for fighting against fascism

      Its 1980 again and my man is the Saddam Hussein of the 21st Century.

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            Rofl… Are you at least paid for this shit? Cause if not… Imagine being so fucking dumb that you actually believe that shit and on top of that, instead of preaching somewhere where you’ve got a chance, you stay on Lemmy. It’s so fucking sad, man… can’t you see it? You’re trying to sell meat to a bunch of vegans, it’s hilarious.

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              Imagine being so fucking dumb that you actually believe that shit

              So stupid you’re familiar with US history prior to 1991?

              If you think the Saddam story is unbelievable, wait till you learn about Noriega.

              It’s so fucking sad, man… can’t you see it?

              Why do folks who want to sound incredulous just sound like they’re high as fuck?

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                Why do folks who want to sound incredulous just sound like they’re high as fuck?

                That’d be your inner narrative embellishing fucking reality with filigree and lace to fit your shit-ass perspective.

                Jim Jefferies said it best: “That’s the problem with crazy people; they don’t know they’re crazy”. Way to illustrate his insightful point by telling us you hear our voices in your head, dumbass.

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                If you think the Saddam story is unbelievable, wait till you learn about Noriega.

                Yes we are all well aware that Republicans have a long history of appeasing dictators. Same as now.

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                  Republicans have a long history of appeasing dictators

                  Not just Republicans…

                  The flood of weapons going into Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan is going to fuel the same kinds of conflicts that arms sold to Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and Jordan fueled 40 years ago.

                  When the building conflict between Poland and Ukraine goes hot…

                  When some of the enormous third-party arms market ramped up in these countries spills into neighboring Egypt and Turkey…

                  When someone with a MANPADS and nefarious intent gets within striking distance of a civilian airport…

                  Shit is going to pop off in a way folks just watching TV and clapping for their favorite team simply aren’t prepared for.

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        Its 1980 again and my man is the Saddam Hussein of the 21st Century.

        Yes we know Butcher Putin is your man. And yes he is a lot like that other tyrant dictator.

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    Republicans are not against aid, and they ARE NOT in bed with the Russians. This is just ignorant talk by people on Lemmy and Reddit. Republicans want accountability about all the money that is being sent all over the fucking place. If it was up to Democrats, they’d just send, send, send…no questions asked. Keep in mind that Ukraine was once considered one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, so yea, let’s just keep sending them billions and billions without making sure the money is actually being used for what it’s supposed too…