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Doctors regularly Google stuff. Their training isn’t in memorizing everything, but in contextualizing data, making decisions based upon the evidence and risk, and communicating that decision to the patient in a way that the patient can understand while allowing the patient to maintain bodily autonomy.
When patients Google symptoms they have no understanding of the disease, it’s prevalence in the community, it’s long term effects, and it’s risk profile. It’s why medicine uses scientific data to make decisions but not a science itself.
But we know that doctors watch YouTube tutorial videos ;-)
I’ve a couple of GP friend who used to describe “Dr Google” as their online colleague.
The point being, they were somewhat trained in interpreting risk as opposed to the stereotypical googler-of-symptoms. Once upon a time search engines were quite useful.
“Programmers” who google+copy+paste most of their code are not programmers (yet) they are Script Kiddies… they are programmers in training
Googling stuff online doesn’t make you a programmer either. You still have to learn it, know how to apply what you look up, understand how the computer works. Although it’s easier to learn by yourself, at least partially because there are no lives at stake.
And doctors look up plenty of stuff too. Only a fool would think they already know everything.
I was a developer for only a short while. It was from about 2003-2005. My memory is hazy on when. I did web based Java and PHP stuff (as well as being the DBA since I went to college for that). Even then, maybe 80% of what I did was just ripping stuff off from forums. I finally quit after I realized that my programming hobby made me want to stab my eyes out if it was a 9-5.
If i see a doctor look up something I immediately trust them more. It shows that they are open to more that the bare minimum and willing to learn if needed.
I went to a dr recently and he asked why I was taking a medication that was for something I wasn’t diagnosed with. I told him it was because it’s found to also improve symptoms of a different condition.
Later I went back and he was looking at my chart and mentioned that the medication I was on was known to help a lot of other issues and listed off a bunch that I knew about but didn’t tell him.
Obviously he looked it up at some point based on my comments.
I like that dr and wish he wasn’t a specialist.
The wishing they weren’t a specialist is so real. I wish my psychiatrist was also my GP and my therapist. I’ve found out through her about diagnoses that are in my chart that nobody ever bothered to tell me about and that I overlooked in there, as well as about off label medication uses that you mentioned and medication or illness interactions I never would’ve guessed. Outside her domain too, e.g. between my thyroid meds and ibuprofen. All the GPs I’ve ever been to are either jaded, refuse to learn or admit you might know something they dont, or don’t take you seriously.
There’s this meme of ‘why is ChatGPT expert on everything but the area I have knowledge of’.
What you’re describing is a professional looking up aditional info, with ability to sift through and judge the result, and I appreciate it in specialists of all the professions.
This is however largely not what this meme is about as in my experience cobbling together random snippets of code rarely if ever works.
There’s this meme of ‘why is ChatGPT expert on everything but the area I have knowledge of’.
That’s just Gell-Mann amnesia applied to chat bots.
There’s this meme of ‘why is ChatGPT expert on everything but the area I have knowledge of’.
I didn’t know about the meme but for a while, YouTube recommended me reviews of the book Sapiens which tries to encompass all of human history, starting from evolution and everyone was like “I learned alot but in the field of my experience, it’s garbage” and I felt like c’mon, don’t you see the pattern
I switched newspapers when I noticed that every time my newspaper write about something I actually knew about, they wrote garbage.
Sapiens does present some really powerful ideas, though. I enjoyed it a lot, but the book clearly glosses over a lot of details. Then again, it tries to tackle a ridiculously big scope, so I can see how it can’t get into all of the details. I still consider it a worthy read despite its shortcomings. But read it more for the ideas than for the facts.
Isn’t the “idea” a very eurocentric understanding of progress and how colonialism is actually good because it civilized the colonized? But I’m sure there is more to the book than that
Extremely talented expert programmer with 30 years experience: “I need an API for the Windows registry that’s accessible in perl syntax within the Android 8.5 OS, and it’s got to be written in Chinese”
Zero Results
College dropout with two years at Best Buy who got the job from his uncle: “How make phone edit WimOSreg fewest characters chinglish”
1879563822560 results, answer in first screen
I mean , if they look on dark web they can also get body for practice 😃
When I code, I feel like Joey from Hackers.
“So I’m in this thing, I don’t know what it is or where it is and I’m just throwing commands at it to see what happens…”
Same, but Joey from Friends.
“Could you BE any more leet?”
What language supports moo point numbers? 🤔
TBF there are plenty of programmers who aren’t good programmers, but keep their job because rarely does anything they do actually affect someone’s physical health.
It’s no secret that a lot of doctors are terrible at their jobs too
The more I learn the less I use google.
Mainly because google is getting worse but still.Programming and being a doctor are different things. This comparison makes no sense.
What about Googling stuff offline?
‘Stack programming’ is a direct reference to that 😉
Oh ok… I was confused about either being Forth or language equivalents class to ruby on rails.
