“We didn’t wait 20 years for Bobby to finally speak and then get served Tylenol as an answer,” anti-vaccine group Georgia Coalition for Vaccine Choice wrote in an unhinged Facebook post on Monday morning. “If that’s all we hear - is that the end? Not thimerosal. Not aluminum. Not MMR. Not Hep B. Not the insane schedule pushed after pharma got liability protection. Are we supposed to just forget?”

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    I love this conclusion.

    On the one side, the Antivaxxers are pissed off. This alone is a great thing. Their hero and saint, their big hope basically bins them. Good.

    On the other side, that Tylenol idea is easily debunkable. And I hope the brand owner Kenvue sues that administration to Kingdom Come for that. Autism is known since 1911, Tylenol is on the market since 1955. Even the dumbest of the MAGA-heads might notice that there is something wrong with that timeline.

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      That’s why there’s no autism in the rest of the planet. No Tylenol. We just use paracetamol, which is perfectly safe.

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      Paracetamol aka acetaminophen, has been around since the 1800s. Tylenol as a brand has only been around since 1955.

      So while we all know this link is bullshit, the 1911 defence falls apart based on facts.

      I think a better response is show me a peer reviewed study from actual researchers who follow actual scientific methodology and have not had to be retracted.

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        I mean, it also falls apart when you consider leukemia is older than smokable tobacco, or that death by falling is older than airplanes, but still. No, Tylenol doesn’t cause autism, but things being older than other things does not mean anything with regards to increased risk.

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      Autism is known since 1911, Tylenol is on the market since 1955.

      I’ve seen that meme float around a LOT, and it’s faulty.

      Let’s sharpen our thinking in-house first before we argue versus conservatives.

      There’s a big difference between “the rapid growth of autism cases is lead by Tylenol usage” and “autism is caused single-handedly by Tylenol”

      You can bet every conservative who drinks the Kool aid will say that rfk is claiming the former, which isn’t disproved by Tylenol being invented after autism cases.

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    "WAH, THEY DIDNT BASELESSLY BLAME THE THING I WANT TO BASELESSLY BLAME, CLEARLY THEY KNOW NOTHING!

    I’VE RESEARCHED THIS ISSUE FOR 20 YEARS BY READING OTHER PEOPLES LUNATIC RAMBLINGS ON FACEBOOK! CLEARLY I’M THE EXPERT ON THIS! "

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    My mom took an advil in 1982 and now I’m a gay liberal retard.

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      The guy so healthy he bathes in sewer water just to bring himself to normal levels? Or the guy so healthy he had to pay off a doctor to come up with a condition so he wouldn’t fight in the military because it would make others look bad?

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    Somebody’s uncomfortable at the thought of it being a genetic disorder, because that would mean losing the ability to blame someone else. I wonder how their children feel about their parents being like this.

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    Johnson & Johnson is a giant corporation with billions of dollars and I don’t think they’re gonna take defamation about one of their biggest products well.

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    We didn’t wait 20 years for Bobby to finally speak and then get served [a different answer then the one we wanted]

    FTFY.

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    The problem with appealing to the crazies, is that there’s always someone crazier.

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    They are just trying to determine exactly how gullible their anti-vax supporters are. So far they have believed every far flung conspiracy possible, why not this one?

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    Are we supposed to just forget?”

    This isn’t just the “maha” wing, every faction in the incredibly loose coalition that got trump elected is starting to get pissed he hasn’t done whatever lie he sold them.

    Midterms are going to be a route

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        I wouldn’t be so optimistic. The Democrats are not making any of the good noises, and all they’ve shown is a silent contempt to people offering change like Mamdani. I think the majority of them still believe they need to offer the same things as the last election, and that they just need to improve the PR, make it louder. And i fear they’ll deafly crash. Again.

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          Grab a progressive in your area and make them shine. We dont need the dems if they are just going to kick their feet and lose this. This has got to be extremely easy because nobody got shit except billionaires. Everyone else is worse off.

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            Bad news: Don’t lean too hard on material conditions. Most people don’t really vibe with those these days.

            Good news: all their fictions are going poorly too.

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          The Democrats are not making any of the good noises

          Spoken like someone who only listens to billionaire owned media…

          Most people have an excuse, they don’t pay attention to politics.

          If you’re here tho, on a niche political social media community …

          You don’t have an excuse for ignorance. You’re putting a tiny amount of effort in, and loudly proclaiming if you can’t figure out what the current DNC is doing, it means they’re not doing anything.

          Like serious there’s two options here:

          1. Ignorance, you don’t know what you’re saying.

          2. Intentional, you’re scared shitless MAGA is gonna lose so you’re already trying to talk Dems out of voting

          Either way, if you don’t like MAGA, everyone is better off if you read more and type less.

          You’re not helping, you’re actively hurting Dems.

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            You put a lot of words there, nothing you said included what Dems are actually doing, or a resource people can use to find out what Dems are actually doing.

            You’re not helping.

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          Fuck the Democrats. Any plan electoral or otherwise that relies on them to not be absolute shit has already failed.

          If the electoral plan is ‘vote blue’ fuck it, you already lost. Go do literally anything else that day. Start a garden masturbate to some weird porn maybe shoplift a little. Those are all more effective than any plan thay requires the dems to take a win offered to them

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      Imagine a super majority turn? Would be so crazy, I would love to see it for the MAGA influencer tears alone.

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          I don’t believe it will happen as well. These MAGA and Republicans will turn in the voting both. That hate and party loyalty runs deep.

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        Your going to talk about that happening to a KENNEDY and use some peasants name as the codeword. Its family tradition, especially if people spend the next half century or more speculating the CIA was involved.

        He’s heading for a Kennedy, not a Kirk.