In Japan and South Korea there is deepening concern over the reliability of long-time American security guarantees – whether the U.S. will come to their aid in the event of a war. This has been turbo-charged by Donald Trump’s tough treatment of traditional U.S. allies, which has some in Tokyo and Seoul calling for a reassessment of their non-nuclear policies.
Don’t be silly, the US will be happy to sell weapons to South Korea and Japan. Also, they will sell to whoever attacks them!
After the UN ramble yesterday, no one should rely on Trump and the US for anything. Every country should be looking for alternatives to US guarantees.
I didn’t watch and haven’t seen anything on it. Was it Normal 2025 Trump bad, or something extra special?
I can’t blame them for wanting to do it. Same with a whole lot of other countries right now.
I’d also like to point out that this will necessitate a new round of nuclear weapons tests. We’re giving up on a hard won success:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel#Present_day
World anthropogenic background radiation, caused by atmospheric nuclear testing, peaked at a level 0.11 mSv/yr (4%) above the natural 2.40 mSv/yr. It began to fall in 1963, when the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty was enacted, and by 2008 it had decreased to only 0.005 mSv/yr above natural levels. This has made special low-background steel no longer necessary for most radiation-sensitive uses, as new steel now has a low enough radioactive signature.
Well, France or the UK could also share their technology, or even Pakistan or India. I imagine it’s easier to buy the technology from an ally than developing it from scratch.
Eh. There’s nothing too crazy about developing from scratch. The hard part is generating your first batch of enriched uranium. A physics grad student could probably design a basic nuke. The US actually ran a test to that effect decades ago; a couple of physicists with no specialization in the nuclear side of things, and using only publicly available material, were able to design an implosion-type device. The expert consensus was that it would have worked just fine.
Buying the blueprints would still remove the need for extensive testing, but you make a good point. After I posted the comment, I actually wondered about how hard it would be since there is so much information about nukes publicly available.
If you donated some money strategically you could probably get a copy of the US nuclear secrets to accidentally fall out of Mar-a-Lago’s bathroom window.
Oh ffs, we don’t need more nuclear powers.
The only options for nuclear weapons are none at all, or everyone with one.
Unfortunately, we live in a world where they exist, and as such, you cannot trust enemies or even allies to have good conscience. If the only way to guarantee your country’s safety against a country with nuclear weapons is your own, then this headline was inevitable.
I agree. And I still think what I said in my previous comment.
it seems that only my country (iran) having nukes is bad.
Wrong Abrahamic DLC is all it takes.
jewish isis already has, so…
The funny part is they’re all wrong about reality.
That some really strong belief* you have there. Lmao
Nope just obvious conclusion drawn from lifelong study.
Apples & oranges honestly. Best would be no one resorts to that strategy. 2nd best is extreme regimes - especially vindicative and religious ones - don’t have such weapons.
Honestly, I trust Iran to behave like a rational actor a whole lot more than I trust Trump. Yes, they’re run by religious nutjobs, but they have been proven to show some restraint on international policy.
Iran as a nation has been around for millenia, I think they have their shit together more than some fresh and not so fresh upstart colonies, like Israel and the USA.
Rational? While they push for shit like virgins in the afterworld ? No thanks. But you are right that suddenly USA isn’t rational anymore either. It seems harder to deprive someone than to simply prevent access to.
“virgins in the afterworld” as an irainian the first time I heard that was from a stand up comedy from Robin Williams.
don’t believe the bullshit.
Dude, don’t act as if your government was anything short of extremism. Setting aside the people obviously. It is absolutely a theocracy which is fucking insane in 2025. Just look at it from the sky and tell me how wonderful it is the best country in the world. That’s no utopia…
sigh. Do you know what “rational actor” means?
Well, I should think so but entertain me…
It means they have motivations, and seek those motivations in a rational way.
Meaning they are religiously motivated, but that doesn’t mean they behave in unpredictable ways. They’re not going to launch a nuke just because they feel like it. On the contrary, they have shown a great deal of restraint.
I mean I am sure usa germany and japan are the most peace loving countries in the last century. unlike iran that literally didnt start a war in that last 200 years.
sorry.
from my perspective my country needs nukes the most of the “Candidates”
Actually this is a good point. 2 of them actually grew out of their initial ways. Admittedly one regressed.
But neither Germany nor Japan are fucking theocracies beheading gays or whatever.
So you gouvernement can suck dicks and hopefully gets replaced by a secural one.
You made abortions illegal, you have the right to point fingers?
I what?
So not only you keep on steering away from the point but you are hilariously wrong on all your assumptions.
My county of residence and origin is absolutely not making abortions illegal.
Also I, as a citizen, am not making anything illegal. I’m taking great care to separate country, government and citizen which you should really consider doing as well.
Governments makes things illegal. An often times a specific branch there of. Generally not citizens themselves with very odd exceptions like parts of Switzerland and such.
I’m having an opinion which I’m very much entitled to in a fucking democracy. Which might be an alien concept to you I gather.
if palestine shown anything is that the collective west didnt grow out of any of its bad habits.
whole of west got behind destroying syria so that “assad” should go because he was bad. because assa “bombed hostpitals and you wouldnt do that even to kill Al-Qaeda terrorists”
now he is replaced with Al-Qaeda commander and he gets welcomed in france and usa. and jewish isis gets to bomb every hospital and university and be the animal that they are because “khamas”.
if you think western regime goals is “saving gays” or something like that you are retarded.
if Libya Syria Afghanistan and of course the best of them saudi arabia was not enough to show you what is the most important foreign goals of eu and usa, I can’t help you.
The hell you bring Palestine into how a theocracy should be prevented to get access to nuclear dissuasion? Stay on the topic please… They are a shit regime that must not have access to more than what they have and even that is too much.
I am trying to show you some points.
all those you call secular governments in west like uk usa france germany and so on, did and continue to do invasions war crimes and atrocity world over.
so I don’t get your obsession with non-secular countries, and thinking that only non-secular countries are capable of good.
whatever my government does , doesn’t even get near to level of what Israel did for the last 80 years and especially last two years.
and all those “secular” countries supported israel completely with actions (words are useless)
israel is a secular country? if so that is news to their government which read from their religious texts when they do an genocide and war crimes. if you have not head that it is because you are ignorant. and those secular regimes is west are completely fine with them doing it.
so I don’t think west care about religious genocide if their buddies commit it.
and my country needs the nukes to survive as history has shown western regimes treaties are not worth the paper that it is written on. if jcpoa didnt show that nothing will. they bombed who they want and kill whoever they want.
be better informed and don’t be fox news level of ignorant.
Again you are steering away from the discussion ; focus please. 2 wrongs never did a right.
Whatever you try to weasel about comparing other countries is absolutely irrelevant when discussing the likelihood of Iran having access to nuclear weapons being a good thing.
The rest of the world being filled to the brim with assholes is irrelevant. My county is irrelevant.
We are just looking at a shit gouvernement in Iran in a fucking vacuum.
And the possibility that THEY get nuclear weapons being is atrocious in itself.
Hey Canada…We should be thinking about this, also.
I’ve been saying that since 2008 as a teen but man was that an unpopular opinion. We’re a very naive country imo.
I wish but… Do you think they won’t invade us at the whiff of nuclear armament?
Building nukes is like unionizing; ideally you don’t go public until you already have your nukes/union
Gonna be tough to hide when all our computer systems run on Microsoft, Google, or Amazon platforms.
Do what isreal did and lie about it while building one
I want to joke “oh, like Iran!” but I don’t want to make razad explode
I don’t think we could realistically hide it from their agents but yeah, totally. That’ll probably be the way if our gov’t decides to do it.
I don’t trust them not to invade us without that protection, anyways.
Agreed. I just think that would make it certain.
If we could get nukes secretly I’d be all up for it.
If Japan and South Korea go through with this perhaps we could purchase some from them (or elsewhere, UK, France, hell, even China) to cover us while we work on a domestic program.
Buy a loaded submarine on the hush-hush and sail it to Vancouver? I like it.
My understanding is that Japan is de facto an nuclear armed state, they simply haven’t made an warheads. They have the all the necessary technology and fuel enrichment, so they could quickly arm if they thought it would be necessary in the near future.
How’s the ICBM situation?
Probably not terribly relevant if their only requirement is to drop one on Pyongyang if necessary. Japan’s got planes. I don’t think anyone else outside of their hemisphere is saber-rattling at them at the moment.
From what I understand from sitting in the comfort of my own armchair, North Korea’s air defenses and indeed pretty much all of their traditional military is pretty rickety at this point. They rely on the nuclear threat plus the assumed support and intervention of China, along with a battery of conventional artillery pointed directly at Seoul, to dissuade any other state from just steamrolling them. North Korea’s missile game is pretty weak, too, but likewise really all they need to be able to do is hit Japan. Hell, if all they wanted to do was cause chaos in the south they’d just have to truck a bomb to the edge of the DMZ and set it off right there.
This is going to result in some really confused Akira spinoffs
Oh God(zilla)
Evangelion 2048, the Angels are Trump shaped.
Replace Lilith with Trump. Ew.
I was thinking more like Ivanka clones from the Lilith vat like Rei
Covfefeulations!
