Unwashed Chicken is totally safe if you do this one amazing trick.
Cook it properly.
If you don’t know how to do that by sight or touch then buy yourself a instant read thermometer.
Washed chicken won’t be any safer if it’s undercooked, salmonella isn’t a surface only danger, so you can remove the “unwashed” part at the beginning.
And by washing it you might spread the salmonella all over the place.
Washed chicken is a stupid concept, I was including the unwashed part because that is the default state of uncooked chicken.
Unless you accidentally drop a chicken on the floor and don’t want to waste it, there isn’t a reason to wash it.
Do people wash pork chops? steaks? hamburgers?
ITT: people who undercook their chicken think that washing is what’s saving them when in reality, washing your chicken only enables a host of cross-contamination issues. Congratulations for turning your sink into a biohazard facility.
Red meat can be eaten rare, because even if the inside is raw, it’s not usually contaminated by anything dangerous, while chicken meat has to be throughly cooked because it’s the opposite… So washing the outside is useless.
Only if it’s a slab of meat, like a steak. Ground meat mixes up all those contaminants, so unless you grind it yourself from a slab with the outsides cut off (still iffy), cook your ground meat thoroughly (medium well is probably enough). You can get away with a sear on pretty fresh steak though.
And then there are the Germans, eating raw ground pork on a bun.
It seems, you can get away with raw meat, if you buy it freshly ground from the butcher.Edit: wrong kind of meat
Yeah, as long as the equipment is sterile, and the edges with the bacteria are removed. That’s not happening at your local grocery store.
I buy my filet américain at my local grocery store. It is made of a beef/pork mix (the fancier the more beef) and usually has an expiry date of T+2 days thanks to the added preservatives.
Industrially processing raw meat is perfectly doable, much to the Americans’ utter disbelief. Belgium has entire specialized industrial supply chains for the massive local demand of raw ground meat bread spread.
What kind of regarded shitfuckery is washing chicken? What u washing off the bacteria that will die by the time the chicken reaches a safe temperature? This just seems like a good way to spread salmonella all over ur sink with no advantage.
Yeah, I remember seeing some clip of some British science woman and whatever, washing chicken is not only fucking dumv, but a great way to spread bacteria
Don’t you wash your sink?
Why wash the chicken then wash the sink and surrounding area when you can just not rinse the chicken and cook it without issue?
Washing the sink is just part of the washing dishes or making food in general. Sink will get dirt anyway. Do you just leave it dirty and grimy all the time?
No I clean it as I need to. Do you stamp around your house with muddy boots? I mean you clean your floor right?
Are you crazy? I’ve been seasoning that thing for years, I don’t want to ruin it by washing it!
Ok, you’re oven must be huge!
Bold of you to assume the size of my sink.
I’m confused what they think they’re washing off. If you don’t believe the cooking kills the germs then you’re not cooking it right (or are confused). If you think it’s something that won’t come off with cooking like dirt or dust, then, ew, why are you getting chicken from somewhere that gets it covered in dirt or dust?
I’m confused what they think they’re washing off.
A LOT of kitchen practices in families are passed-down traditions, with a lot of people not really knowing why they do the things they do.
My Filipino family-in-law washes their cuts of meat, which yeah is entirely unnecessary and I always wondered why they do it, then I traveled to the Philippines and saw the town where they lived, and most of the local butchers hang fresh cuts of meat up on hooks, uncovered, right next to busy roads and sidewalks.
I genuinely don’t know how everyone there hasn’t died of acute food poisoning from the unrefrigerated meats in high heat and humidity, but they at least like to wash off the road grime and dust.
It can also help tenderize the meat (via vinegar or lemon/lime); I tend to find that, when “nondeveloped” countries talk about washing their meat, it means in a vinegar/citrus solution while “developed” countries quite literally mean just plain water.
As across the pond dweller, I am reading this and going “u wot m8?”
Your chicken should already be clean enough when you unpack it. Just choke it thoroughly and don’t contaminate any surface with its juices.
when you unpack it. Just choke it thoroughly
This is sounding extremely unsanitary
Well… you don’t want it flapping around everywhere in your oven now, do you?
Why not?
Traumatizes the children
I thought you said it traumatizes the chicken the first time I read your comment. Lol
Probably both… It’s just that the chicken’s trauma won’t last as long…
It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.
Cook it thorougly. Use a meat thermometer to be sure and you’ll be fine.
I remember hearing the same thing.
No you don’t.
I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
There sure are plenty of ‘under no circumstances’ articles and testimonials parroting each other.Washing removes the gooey protein film on the surface, which otherwise ends up cooking into a egg-white-like membrane.
You can also wipe it with a paper towel to accomplish the same.
You should, at the very least, always dry your chicken to allow the surface to brown properly. Otherwise you end up with the hospital patient pale white.- reading around, it’s spreading the bacteria from the chicken to the environment thats the problem, so I was wrong there. Paper towel it is from now on.
Yep, you nailed it in your edit. We do exactly that - dry it off with a few paper towels, then roast. As long as you can resist devouring the paper towels or dragging them all over the house (I’m looking at my sleeping dogs as I type this), it’s safe.
My mom has always made me “wash chicken,” which would just be running it under water. Just chicken, nothing else.
I used to do it out of habit, but laziness seems to have worked in my favor this time.
As a middle aged person who is generally healthy, I’ve never washed chicken. On a side note, we eat chicken weekly. I’ve not experienced diarrhea, or been really sick, or died post chicken eating. I could safely say 1/2 of the days of the year, at least, involve basic butcher parted out chicken, and it is delicious.
Washing a backyard/farm chicken post killing/plucking to remove blood and debris, sure. But what is the logic behind this strange internet trend?
This is like finding out that there are Flat Earthers that actually believe and it’s not just a satirical joke.
I bring this up every so often but I remember flat earth being about questioning science and understanding how to think for yourself… That understanding the earth was round was such a simple thing to do just by really looking at the horizon… You could then question other science and try to see how it could be wrong… It was like a gateway into critical thinking or something…
But I never could find any reference to the old club that was started for it or find anything on the topic… I also haven’t looked in a while and most of the information is just now about how these people are incorrect and also craziness
Lots of people really do.
Losing taste is one thing, but it can actually be dangerous by spreading salmonella&friends.
Didn’t watch the video, but I have a degree in this field. We were taught to always wash chicken, in a separate room. I was given an earful one time when I was working at the kindergarten kitchen when I forgot to wash chicken thoroughly.
Edit: I should notice, all my comments apply to a factory setting and business grade kitchens. Multiple people corrected me that cooking at home is different and you should not wash your chicken at home kitchen.
You’ll have to be more specific about what “this field” is. Restaurant sanitation? Food safety? Chicken washing? Microbiology?
Whatever your degree, it’s not the recommended practice.
https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Should-I-wash-chicken-or-other-poultry-before-cooking.You render meat safe to eat by killing the bacteria with fire, commonly called “cooking it”.
Degree is in Food production technology. Sanitation, safety of preparation and storage. Before cooking, meat can go all over working place, and it can contaminate it if not washed.
Sounds like you maybe learned about food preparation in a factory setting, which is different than in a kitchen setting.
Per USDA and CDC guidelines, you shouldn’t wash poultry before cooking because you’re more likely to spread any contamination, you’re unlikely to remove contamination that’s present since it’s not like it just lives on top of the tissue, and it’s already been washed during processing.
Obviously if you’re the party doing the actual processing for distribution then things are different since you need to remove potential traces of feces, dirt or other surface contamination.
Yes, I think there was a miscommunication. You’re correct about the factory setting.
Maybe your should edit your previous messages to mention that it doesn’t apply to a kitchen environment so you don’t spread disinformation.
Hang on. You’re telling me, all kindergartens in your area have a separate room, just for washing chicken? Like"Here’s where the kids keep their bags, here’s the toilets, this is the chicken washing room, and over there we keep the crafts."
There a multiple compartments to every kitchen, at least should be to adhere to sanitary documentation. A separate room for washing dishes, a separate room for cleaning vegetables, a separate room for cleaning meat and a separate room for cooking. The cooking room has separated workplaces for different kinds of food to reduce contamination.
I’ll call bullshit on that unless you’re using the wrong words to describe these rooms. I know the field from a cook perspective and no kindergarten has multiple rooms for cooking and meal prep. You’re thinking about the setup in a factory that does food transformation. Transformation and preparation are two completely different things.
Having worked in restaurants for years and been to multiple health and safety classes in multiple states, I call bullshit.
Washing chicken spreads bacteria all over everything wherever it’s done: the walls, floor, ceiling. Do you sanitize the ceiling after you do this?
Listen mate, you can call bullshit all you want, I’m citing official documentation of my country that worked for years, specifically this one “СП 2.3.6.1079-01”, under part VIII, 8.9.
You were taught wrong. You don’t wash chicken. It only spreads germs.
I’m inclined to trust my professors that had years of experience, rather than someone off the internet.
That is the correct position to hold.
They’re only correct because they’re referring to a very specific situation that, for all intents and purposes, is completely wrong for any situation the average person will encounter.
So no, they’re wrong from a consumer perspective but right in factory conditions. So no matter what their professors say, don’t listen to this person because you’re not cooking in factory conditions.
I meant, out of context, that listening to your professors rather than internet randoms is the correct position to hold.
Yeah, I don’t disagree with that so long as the particular context is included when being passed off as normal in specific conditions. It was not mentioned that the professor stated this was for mass production and the comment was provided in a context that invalidated what they said. In context, without the edit, the professor’s advice is immaterial to the discussion and only serves to spread misinformation on proper hygienic practices.
But to the overall point, this is why you don’t listen to random people on the Internet! Sometimes you get told facts that are only true for very specific edge cases that are bandied about as general advice with the weight of ‘i have a degree’ as confidence even though the advice is objectively wrong in the provided context.
I was going to mention not washing your chicken, but the comments nail it. Don’t wash your chicken, the bacteria just spreads around your kitchen.
I remember watching an interview with some chef once. They were asked what common things they would see when they’re at someone’s house that would keep them from eating, just out of fear. Washing raw chicken in the sink was the instant answer. It splashes everywhere and is very likely to contaminate half your kitchen.
My eggs have chickenshit on them and thats’ why they don’t need refrigeration like you do in the US.
Also, I can eat them raw if I like. Finnish health authorities sign off on that.
That isn’t entirely correct, the layer of mucous around the egg is called the bloom - it isn’t shit that protects the egg. The bloom actually protects the egg from bacteria that live in the chicken shit, and washing them removes that layer of mucous . Even still, the likelihood of getting salmonella from a supermarket egg is like 1 in 20k or something like that.
Source: I have chickens.
spujb is not an idiot, I made a mistake
taste like plain shit after
does homey not season his shit?
Seasoning must enhance the taste, not be the taste. Also most of the taste in chiken come from legs and skin.
most of the taste in chicken come from legs and skin
“Good day Mr. meat butcher. Yes I would please today like five legs and skin thank you.”
Skin on the chiken itself not just skin lol. Have you like never been to a butcher shop? This won’t be even weird for them, there are people that request insane shit like mince these bones and bird feet as well my dogs love them or people that request to try raw meat before buying it.
You should absolutely not wash your chicken, it is unnecessary and can splash bacteria around. Cook it to 165 F and youre 100% safe from bacteria.
Just make sure you test the coldest part of the chicken. For good measure, check a few areas, like breast, thighs, and drumsticks.
You want 150f for 3 min for white meat. 165 is unnecessary unless you flash cook it, and then put it in the fridge. 165 w8ll be tough and dry. https://blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-everything-you-need-to-know/
Dark meat will be at like 170 when it cooks for flavor so you don’t need to worry if it is cooked through it will be safe.
For the lazy:
- you want 65°C for three minutes
- 75°C is unnecessary
- dark meat will be at like 77°C
Thankyou for using globally recognised a Standard units
Globally? Hah! America’s part of the globe too, silly metric sheeple. /s
For a freedom loving country they sure do love using imperial kingdom units
We don’t use “Imperial kingdom units.” We use US Customary units which are different. Just like your “metric” system is different from SI.
You mean like the imperial spanners I need to buy to fit bolts from the US?
Pretty sure you need to cook chicken for more than 3 minutes
I might be wrong, but I think they meant get the internal temperature to 150 and maintain that for three minutes.
I am not qualified to say whether that’s accurate, but I believe the interpretation is.
