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    It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.

    It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.

    People really hate insurance companies.

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      Don’t do it under your names folks, regime will be making lists based on this.

      They are scared and they will lash out.

      With that being said, fuck that parasite.

      FAFO

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        You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?

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          Make them spend more resources doing deanonymizations. First they have to get the IP from instance admins, then trace the tor routing, then the VPN that I use, then ask for my ISP. Make them do all that work.

          (Or maybe they already have access by simply activating their backdoors within Intel ME, AMD PSP, and whatever baseband backdoor on the phones they have, and have just gotten everyone’s real identities in an instant, we can’t know for sure.)

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            They also have backdoors in most implementations of TLS, according to a person I know who worked government security.

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              It wouldn’t be impossible. There are like so many different certificate issuers, any one of them collaborating with a government would allow them to create a certificate that would be accepted by your browser.

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              I work in cryptography, and I guarantee if that’s true “some person you know who worked in government security” would not tell you if they did know, or they are pulling shit out of their ass. There have been so many people that have looked at or worked on SSL/TLS implementations (including some of my coworkers), any vulnerabilities would have to be pretty subtle or clever, and that would be kept highly classified. Quit making shit up or repeating bullshit you heard.

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                Sure, if we’re talking about code vulnerabilities only. It’s most likely a compromised root cert though.

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                  That just would allow a malicious attacker to fake being the server, it doesn’t actually compromise the TLS session. So you are talking about a much more sophisticated multi stage attack that needs to be actively executed. This wouldn’t at all allow them to record traffic and decrypt later.

                  The certs authenticate that you are talking to the real server, the symmetric session keys that are usually derived from a diffie helman key exchange have nothing to do with certs. That’s two separate (but connected) parts of the transaction to build a TLS session.

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        They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.

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          i was talking about people commenting on linkedin actually…

          nor did I suggest reddit is anon, but aint you aint got provide your full name and address.

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      LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.

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      People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country’s worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles… nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.

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    “United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s final KD ratio (7,652,103:1) lands him among the all time greats,” a thread deleted by r/interestingasfuck moderators said.

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    What I like about this moment is that the people who ought to be fearful are indeed the ones who are fearful. I mean shit, Elon is posting Tweets about how great CEOs are actually, health insurance companies are removing pages from their websites that identify leadership, it’s a lovely little pocket of schadenfreude where we can all take a breath and prepare for the next 4 years.

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      I like the idea that they’ve got billions of dollars, but will have to live in a windowless bunker eating beans.

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        They couldn’t even hunker down in their mansions for two weeks of Covid lockdown.

        They like to fantasize about it, but the reality of living like that will hit them fast.

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        Boot them from our nice society, in other words

        We could deny them the right to buy and sell too. Just everybody refuses.

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      These parasites know that we got numbers on our side and we permit their rule by and large…

      I don’t think this corp of owners realize that plebs can turn on a dime, they got too comfortable. This is a wake up call.

      Having their goon wacked like this got to make them feels a certain way hehe

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        I hope there’s a copycat to reinforce the lesson very soon, or they’ll write this off as a one off.

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        For the sake of my neighbors and their loved ones and their neighbors and loved ones, please stop permitting people to rule over them

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      Ive got bullets with words on them and bullets without. But I’m all outta bullets without words on them

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    He didn’t really get “assassinated”. He just got denied his critical-life benefits.

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        This isn’t a generational thing. For a start, he’s technically Gen X, not a boomer. And secondly, I’m older than him and I’m just as happy about that as everyone else.

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            Which is really really sad. When I was younger I used to think we just need these old people to age out of the system and my generation can do things better. We seem to be doing significantly worse.

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            (Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)

            That’s really sad because the younger someone is the more they are going to be fucked by the long term effects of Donald Trainwreck’s enshitification of everything. Nuclear proliferation from the new world disorder, global warming, hyperinflation of the national debt due to gigantic tax cuts for the billionaire elites, hollowing out democracy, normalization of corruption, normalization of routine dishonesty, huge economic inefficiencies that comes with wealth inequality, removal of previous rights like abortion, vast increase in government incompetency, etc

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          While boomer is deff age, when people refer to it online it largely mind sent reference… that parasite pest leeching on working people and feel entitled to do it, indigent when exposed.

          You know the type…

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      Exactly… Don’t humaniE this parasite. Give him that corpo treatment.

      Claim to life denied 🙅

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      When society gets to the point where you will die if you don’t do anything … or you will die if you do something …

      Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don’t do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.

      If you’re going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.

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        I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.

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          Hopefully it doesn’t come to that, and he just never gets caught.

          If he does, it’s gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.

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                Oh, I’m almost certain that they would primarily because they would not want him having money to fight a legal battle.

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                  He won’t be paying for it in either case, someone will pick this up pro-bono.

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                If I was him id be in the Appalachians camping by now with no internet or cell connected devices. Id just wait a month or two and move all of my shit out of new york, mind you he may not even be a New Yorker he could be Californian for all we know.

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              I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently. Taking it to trial and giving this guy a voice could make things so much worse for them. They’re afraid of creating a robin hood, and class solidarity; of giving the working class a hero and cause to rally around.

              They’re so close to creating a robot army that can suppress the masses. They just have to bide their time until revolution is impossible.

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                I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently.

                Wouldn’t that backfire though?

                Won’t more people start thinking “So this guy killed a really important CEO and apparently never got caught nor faced repercussions… you know what…”

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          Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.

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          Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He’ll be a hero either way, the question is how much.

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        Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it’s barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.

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        Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.

        Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn’t really have any time to enjoy it.

        Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.

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          Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.

          This is one of the things that scares me about most about completely anonymous currencies and networks: untraceable kill orders and, to a lesser extent, unlimited bribery (that already exists in US). Because you know, it opens the most possibilities to people with money. Like billionaires.

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            I suspect billionaires and other people of high authority, especially, would be the first ones on the list. But your average everyday person is very unlikely to be on the list because they don’t have enough people who hate them.

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              I’m not sure we would outweigh them - you know the statistics, almost half the wealth (potential kill orders) is held by top 1.1%.

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        Don’t get scammed but if he ever needs a legal defense fund, I think the plebs can figure it out.

        He did job well, least we can do it pay respects

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        According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that’s the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.

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          Leaving the DNA behind doesn’t really identify him if his DNA is not in the system.

          But nowadays the odds some relative of yours put theirs up on some family tree site is pretty high so they could narrow the suspect pool quite a bit going that route.

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          Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.

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      Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?

      This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.

      The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.

      This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell

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      Silly tardigrade’s playing on the wrong side of the bridge. Do they teach nothing at tardigrade music school?

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          TIL. Thank you!

          but the piece that truly brought him to international attention was Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima (see threnody and atomic bombing of Hiroshima), written in 1960 for 52 string instruments. In it, he makes use of extended instrumental techniques (for example, playing behind the bridge, bowing on the tailpiece).

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Penderecki

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            The Threnody is definitely his most famous, but he has used that technique in some of his solo compositions for cello as well - example

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              Oh WOW!
              That’s…something else entirely.
              So violent! Yet also subtle and quiet.
              Yields immediate visceral reactions.
              The entire instrument is so thoroughly explored.
              How does one remember such a piece?
              Or keep the original bow and strings to the end?
              Striking. Marvelous. Beautiful. I’m all for it.

              An amendment of something conjured by it:

              It’s not safe out here. It’s wonderous; with treasures vibrations to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it’s not for the timid.

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          It’s hard to tell. It looks deep like a cello, but the bridge doesn’t look quite high enough. Maybe at the tardigrade scale stringed instruments are made a little differently.

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    I couldn’t help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.

    I don’t want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.

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      In France, during the Nazi occupation in WW2, a few people turned to the Resistance movement which was also a terror operation: they would target military objectives but also conduct assassinations of nazi officials designed to inspire fear in the others and spark support in the population.

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        No, it’s terror. It’s just that that isn’t always the negative we’ve tended to think it is.

        Typically we’ve been citizens in a country on the “power” side of the dynamic, so using terror like that meant using it on us, and so we learned that it’s bad.

        This time we’re on the other side of the power dynamic, so it’s seemingly… Good.

        The bad thing being good creates cognitive dissonance.

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          This is a direct consequence of “the war on terror” attempting to redefine the military strategy of asymmetrical warfare as terrorism and inherently immoral.

          To sell the bullshit “war on terror” the easiest way to make the US seem righteous was to degrade the public’s sense of why people violently resist and reduce it to the act of violently resisting an organized traditional military is immoral unless the thing resisting is also a traditional organized military.

          I am glad that narrative is breaking down though as the distortion of how and why violent conflicts occur is dangerously blinding to a basic understanding of the world.

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            Killing people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time is always wrong.

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                I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.

                Yes. And the Israeli hostages.

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        Robespierre thought killing tens of thousands of people was defense. History has not been kind to that position.

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      Technically they didn’t fully rescind it. They rescinded it in some places but not others, and for some patients but not others. It’s just PR, they have no intention of actually changing things.

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    You know what’s pretty neat about this?

    It’s not mob justice. Mob justice is when people get together and come up with bad ideas. This is an individual that the public has now rallied around.

    While we only see comments from a select few number of people in this country (relative to it’s size of 350m) it seems that democracy is voicing itself. I know a lot of people who were initially shocked, but then quickly came to the conclusion that FAFO is a real thing.

    And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.

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      And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.

      Hopefully more of the FO part comes out of the woodwork.

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      “Mob justice” is a boogeyman invented to distract you from the fact that the cops and the state give you no justice at all.

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        It’s not even mob justice, it’s vigilante justice. It just so happens in this case practically everyone is pretty happy about it having happened.

        The mob never called for this CEO’s death, we’re just not sad he was killed. Even if in general most of us wouldn’t actively call for people to be killed.

        If it makes CEOs afraid, then fantastic, a nice happy side-bonus.

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          Yeah, and that’s all true, but in the comment I replied to was room for the implication that “mob justice” is a problem somehow.

          We’re told it would be chaos, some great threat to society, but like, the only examples of mobs that I can think of doing any real damage are groups whose immediate aims were supported by the ruling class. Lynchings in the US south were openly permitted and encouraged by the entrenched white supremacist police state. Witch burnings were encouraged by the state to disenfranchise women from power over their own bodies, and they laid the foundations for capitalism.

          Then those horrific examples of state oppression are presented to us as examples of the horrors that await if we were to ever stop bowing to that same state and take matters into our own hands.

          Even if the person making the comment didn’t intend to reinforce that notion, it’s a default assumption for many people and I didn’t want it to stand unchallenged.

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        We don’t know the implications of this. But there got to be something big coming our way.

        Ruling class will not have their lieutenant punished like this in a broad day light with out lashing out.

        They already despise as is, they gonna step up brutality imho screw here, screw there.

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          That’s just going to pour gas on the fire. The less people have to lose, the more likely they’re going to take matters into their own hands.

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            You aint wrong but ruling class can’[t accept one of their officers being gunned down by what appears to be a pleb with vendetta and he get away with it while rest of us cheer him on as a hero.

            This is about power, and the the people with power feeling insecure.

            Time will tell. I expect things to get worse before/if they ever get better for the working class.

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    I’m telling ya, this is the beginning of A Christmas Carol. The ghost of Thompson needs to visit his colleagues and warn them you too, shall die, and no-one will mourn you and the people will celebrate in the streets. And all your friends will tear into your assets like vultures into carrion.

    Heck, replace the ghosts with mobsters and use a trick of time rather than supernatural spirits, and you have a 21st century version of the story.

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    Man, this shit just keeps being funny. The longer it stays funny, the better it affects all involved.

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    How fucked up is it that the day after the ceo of a major health insurance company was murdered in broad daylight,

    The next day another health insurance company said they would no longer limit anesthesia during surgeries.

    This makes me realize something, and it’s not what our sponsor or corporate donor wants me to believe.

    Edit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw

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    21 days ago

    On the 4th of July, American’s don’t celebrate that British soldiers were killed, we celebrate the society we won in the process.